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These 12 Photos were taken by Robert Pirsig’s very own camera, as he Chris, Sylvia and John made that 1968 epic voyage upon which Mr Pirsig’s <em>Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance</em> (ZMM) book was based. Taken in 1968 along what is now known as <em> The ZMM Book Travel Route</em> each photo scene is actually <em>Written-Into</em> Mr. Pirsig’s book => <em>Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (ZMM) </em>

Author Robert Pirsig’s Own 12 Color Photos, Of His 1968 ZMM Travel Route Trip: Each Is Written-Into His ZMM Book. AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn 2nd Down.

Each of the 832 photographs in these Four Albums show a scene described in the book <em>Zen and Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. </em> Each photo was especially researched and photographed along the ZMM Route to show a specific ZMM Book Travel Description Passage: This passage is shown in quote marks below the respective photo. As you look at each of these photos, you will be viewing scenes similar to those that author Pirsig, Chris, and the Sutherlands might have seen, on that epic voyage, upon which the book <em>Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance</em> was based. Thus it is, that these 832 photographs are <em>A Color Photo Illustrated Zen and Art of Motorcycle Maintenance</em>. Indeed <em>A Photo Show Book</em> for ZMM. Sights & Scenes Plus Full Explanation

My ZMM Travel Route Research Findings, Are A Page-By-Page, Color Photo Illustrated ZMM. AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn Top Album.

Each of these 28 photos are Full Circle Panorama Photos Seven-Feet-Wide. They were taken along the Travel Route of the book ‘‘Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance’‘. They show a 360 degree view, made by stitching together eight photos. These Panoramic Photos, complement and add to those of my Photo Album ABOVE named  => ‘‘A Color Photo Illustrated ZMM Book, With Travel Route Sights & Scenes Explained’‘.

ZMM Travel Route Research PANORAMIC PHOTOS 7ft wide! Henry Gurr, 2002 ZMM Research Trip. AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn 2nd Down.

This album shows what I saw  on my RETURN trip home (San Francisco California to Aiken South Carolina), Summer 2002. These 55 photos were taken along the Route of the <em>1849er’s Gold Rush to California</em> (In Reverse Direction). After I completed my ZMM Research, I RETURNED home by way of the Route of the ‘49’s Gold Rush. This route included the route of the <em>California Gold Rush Trail</em> (in Nevada & California), as well as portions of the <em>Oregon Trail</em> all the way into Missouri." These 1849er’s Travel Route Photos, were taken AFTER I took those Photos shown in the above Album named “‘‘A Color Photo Illustrated ZMM Book, With Travel Route Sights & Scenes Explained’

Henry Gurr’s 2002 Research Photos: California Gold Rush Trail & Oregon Trail. AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn 3rd Down.

Each of these seven 360 degree  Full Circle Panoramic Photos were taken along the route of the Gold Rush ‘1849’ers from Missouri to California. Each is 7 foot wide! These Panorama Photos complement and add to those of my Photo Album above named  => ‘‘Henry Gurr’s Research Photos: California Gold Rush Trail & Pioneer Oregon Trail’‘ AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn Top Album.

California Gold RushTrail & Pioneer Oregon Trail PANORAMIC PHOTOS 7ft wide! Henry Gurr, 2002 ZMM RETURN Trip. AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn Top Album.

Enjoy 225 Photos of Flowers & Red Wing Blackbirds Along the ZMM Route. This Album of  Color Photos shows every Flower and Red Wing Blackbird (RWBB) that I could “get within my camera sights!!”  This was done in honor of the ZMM Narrator's emphasis of Flowers and Redwing Blackbirds in the book ‘‘Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.’‘ I was very surprised to find RWBB's the entire travelroute from Minneapolis to San Francisco.

In Honor of ZMM Narrator’s Emphasis: 225 Color Photos of ZMM Travel Route Flowers & Red Wing Blackbirds. AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn 5th Down.

These 165 photos show ‘‘Tourist Experiences’‘ the ZMM Traveler may have along the ZMM Route.

My 2002 ZMM Travel Route Experience: By Henry Gurr ZMMQ Site Master. AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn 3rd Down.

Starting Monday 19 July 2004, Mark Richardson traveled the ZMM Route, on his trusty Jakie Blue motorcycle. Mark made these 59 interesting photographs of what he saw along the way. As he toured, he pondered his own life destiny (past present future), and sought to discover his own deeper personal meaning of the book <em>Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance</em>

Mark Richardson’s 19 July 2004, ZMM Route Trip & Photo Journal. AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn 5th Down.

The former home (~1968) of John and Sylvia Sutherland, at 2649 South Colfax Ave, Minneapolis MN, shown in 18 photos. Despite John's quite negative disparaging statements in ZMM, about their home back in Minneapolis, this same house, shown in these photos, looks to us like a wonderful beautiful home along a very nice, quiet, shady street, in a perfectly fine Minneapolis Neighborhood!

John & Sylvia Sutherland of “The ZMM Book”: 18Potos Of Former Minneapolis Home>2649 South Colfax Ave, AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn 4th Down.

A 36 Photo Tour of Two University of South Carolina Buildings:  a) Etherredge Performing Arts Center Lobby + b) Ruth Patrick Science Education Center, some of which show “Built In Educational Displays

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And b) The Rarely Seen Equipment Service Room & Dungeon.
Site Master Henry Gurr's Campus: Photos Of Science Building, One (of 32 total Buildings) At The University of South Carolina Aiken. AFTER the 5 Albums Comes Up, Read & ClickOn 5th Down.

IThese 15 photos show persons & scenes, related to how we got this ZMMQ WebSite going, back in ~2002. Included are "screen captures" of our software systems in use. A few of these photos show the screen views of what we were “looking at,” some including brief notes & hints on how to get around some of the problems we experienced.

Software We Used ~2002, In Creating and Maintaining This ZMMQ WebSite: Illustrated & Explained. AFTER the 5 Albums Cones Up, Read & ClickOn Top Albun.

Photos of Faculty, Administrators, and Students who were at Montana State College ~ 1956-1960. These persons, especially Sarah Vinke, were faculty (or colleagues of) ZMM author Robert Pirsig, during his teaching (1959 – 1961), as Professor of English, at Montana State College, Bozeman MT.

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Good Alternatives & Extensions To Book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (ZMM).

The Books Suggested Below Are Good Reading, Plus They Will Support and or Extend Your Understanding of the Ideas That Robert Pirsig Wrote Into His Book “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance”.

This page offers "comparable" books so you may learn more about the topics covered in ZMM, and/or related ideas.
…In a sense this is a list of books that I, SiteMaster Henry Gurr, recommend. This is in addition, of course, to my solid recommendation for ZMM Book itself.

This ZMM Alternatives Page is dedicated to USCA Professor Donald Blount, who firmly believes => There are ONLY TWO AUTHORS, A) Shakespeare (All of his) and B) Cervantes' Don Quixote, are worthy of the designation Classic. Thus, in Dr. Blount's judgment, ZMM can hardly be worth any consideration at all!
…In fact he has repeatedly tried to convince me to quit wasting my time, bothering with ZMM ….. period!
…To support his judgment, Dr. Blount has promised an essay. While we await his essay, please read-on below for much good reading on topics related to ZMM.

AND .... For those persons who have considerable reservations (misgivings?) re ZMM, I offer this collection of "Alternates and Extensions" to ZMM so they don't have to read ZMM!



“Lila”, The Sequel To Pirsig's ZMM, Must Be Mentioned First, As An Alternate / Supplement To ZMM.

…And Of Course, “Lila” has its own Mentioned Books/Authors. These were valuable enough for Author Robert Pirsig to mention, and thus are an implied Pirsig Book Recommendation.
…NOTE: A list of these “Lila” Mentioned Books”, is reported in APPENDIX Below. (Unfortunately Amazon’s "Look In the Book" does not seem to be available for “Lila.)

“Lila” , written in the same manner as ZMM, follows the trail of Phaedrus along the Erie Canal, down the Hudson River to New York City, and on to the expansive freedom of the Atlantic Ocean. We may assume Mr. Pirsig answers (in his second book Lila) the many objections and questions, which were raised by readers of ZMM.
See full explanation of “Lila” at: http://www.answers.com/topic/lila-an-inquiry-into-morals

Concerning the Creative Force Called LILA, Answers.com says:

Asian Mythology: Līlā
…“Inside of the sleeping Hindu God Viṣṇu (see Viṣṇu) (see Hinduism entries), the Goddess (see Devī, Lakṣmī) is the world contained within him waiting to be created. In creation she is Māyā (see Māyā) or the illusion of reality. That is to say, she becomes Lila or “Divine Play,” Divine Illusion In The Created World. “
More, Including A Wikipedia Explanation, At Archive.Org Saved Version. Chick Here.



“The Guidebook to Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance”, by DiSanto and Steele.

…The Person Who Really Likes ZMM, Should OWN and Immediately Read =>
The Guidebook to Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.
Or study => http://www.usca.edu/math/~mathdept/hsg/ZMMFindSiteInfo.html#Guidebook


“Zen and Now: On the Trail of Robert Pirsig and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.” By Mark Richardson.

“Zen and Now:” Is Motorcycle enthusiast Mark Richardson’s Book about Following the ZMM Route.
…A journalist and motorcycle enthusiast – Mark Richardson – decides to get on his Jackie New (Suzuki One Banger) …. with his leather jacket, factory repair manual, and a bag of tools, ..... to retrace the seminal journey taken by author Robert Pirsig, described in the book “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry into Values” (ZMM).
…Mr. Richardson started in Toronto early July 2004 and ended at the Zen Center in San Francisco, two weeks later. His book recounts his experiences on the road: the people he meets, the long night bar binges, and the re-living of scenes from ZMM. He comes up with some fantastic & gripping stories. With him always is his fear of accidents in the heavy hi speed traffic and on the high mountain switch-back turns. His fear becomes real, as he faces, with instant reflex skill, several harrowing brushes with the taste of death!!
…Mr. Mark Richardson expands on Pirsig’s journey with his own quest to escape the malaise of passing middle age, which precipitates his search for "the meaning of life." The Zen sense of "right now" flows in and out of his thoughts.
…In the process he learns more about himself and more about the enigmatic author of Zen and the Art. The result manages to be a biography of Mr. Richardson and of Mr. Pirsig -- a discovery of an unknown life of madness, murder and eventual resolution -- and a splendid meditation on creativity and problem-solving, sanity and insanity.
It is fascinating to read and I am sure you will not want to miss it!. Henry Gurr.
Mark Richardson is the editor of the Wheels section of the Toronto Star. Zen and Now is his first book. Published by Knopf, Sept. 2008
AFTER This 5 Albums Page Comes Up => Scroll down to the 5th Album to see Mark Richardson's photos of his trip followed the ZMM Route.

Mark Richardson’s Own Discussion Of His Book “Zen and Now:” .Click Here. AFTER this page comes up, scroll down for “A Selection Of His Photos On His Ride West.”.



When Considering Books That Might Be Alternatives To ZMM, We Should Mention Those Books Mentioned By Robert Pirsig Himself In Either ZMM (See Below) or Lila (See Above).

We may consider his mention as an implied recommendation of those books.


The Following Lettered Items (A thru E) Are Actually Mentioned In ZMM Book Itself.

A) “The Tao Te Ching” By Lao Tzu: Any One Who Has Read ZMM Should Become More Familiar With (Or Read) The “The Tao Te Ching” !!

…[On ZMM page 226 Phaedrus quotes extensively from the The Tao Te Ching. He discusses how close his own analysis of Quality matches that of the “The Tao Te Ching” . In describing the meaning of the The Tao, The following passage, explains Lao Tzu's ancient book of wisdom, but in the process, actually does a great job in describing what ZMM is all about as well!!
…Those that that already have read ZMM, should also read Lao Tzu!! The Blue Link next down, is a good place to start: The following is directly from Blue Link next down. ]
"The philosophy of Lao Tsu is simple: Accept what is in front of you without wanting the situation to be other than it is, Study the natural order of things and work with it rather than against it, for to try to change what is only sets up resistance. Nature provides everything without requiring payment or thanks and also provides for all without discrimination—therefore let us present the same face to everyone and treat all men as equals, however they may behave. If we watch carefully, we will see that work proceeds more quickly and easily if we stop "trying," if we stop putting in so much extra effort, if we stop looking for results. In the clarity of a still and open mind, truth will be reflected. We will come to appreciate the original meaning of the word "understand," which means to stand under". We serve whatever or whoever stands before us, without any thought for ourselves. Te—which may be translated as “virtue” or "strength"—lies always In Tao, or "natural law." In other words: Simply be."
…"The “Tao Te Ching” , the esoteric but infinitely practical book written most probably in the sixth century B.C. by Lao Tsu, has been translated more frequently than any work except the Bible. This translation of the Chinese classic, which was first published twenty-five years ago, has sold more copies than any of the others. It offers the essence of each word and make Lao Tsu’s teaching Immediate and alive. " The above passages were taken from the back cover of: Tao de Ching: 25th Anniversary Edition. See link below.
Translated by Gia-Fu Feng & Jane English (March 97, Vintage Publishers.)
Tao de Ching: 25th Anniversary Edition

B) On ZMM Page 36, The Narrator Mentions The Three Books With Them On The Trip. Here Is His Statement:=>

"Books. I don’t know of any other cyclist who takes books with him. They take a lot of space, but I have three of them here anyway, with some loose sheets of paper in them for writing. These are:"
"2. A general troubleshooting guide containing all the technical information I can never keep in my head. This is Chilton’s Motorcycle Troubleshooting Guide written by Ocee Rich and sold by Sears, Roebuck. "
"3. A copy of Thoreau’s Walden . . . which Chris has never heard and which can be read a hundred times without exhaustion. I try always to pick a book far over his head and read it as a basis for questions and answers, rather than without interruption. I read a sentence or two, wait for him to come up with his usual barrage of questions, answer them, then read another sentence or two. Classics read well this way. They must be written this way. Sometimes we have spent a whole evening reading and talking and discovered we have only covered two or three pages. It’s a form of reading done a century ago . . when Chautauquas were popular. Unless you’ve tried it you can’t imagine how pleasant it is to do it this way." [End passage from ZMM page 36.]

B-cont.) Walden Pond by Henry David Thoreau:

[In the Amazon.com reviews of the ZMM book, Mr. D. Waldrep pointed out the parallels between ZMM and Walden as follows:] ...... And if ZMM isn't a sequel to Walden, I don't know what else it could be. Pirsig invokes Thoreau, who used an extremely similar technique, early on. Pirsig, in one of my favorite parts, elucidates in a VERY tedious manner the various equipment he takes with him on the road, and I couldn't help but be reminded of Thoreau's bean-planting ventures in Walden (especially since Pirsig mentions how boring Thoreau can be right after he's gone on about his knapsack for 5 pages; it's called tongue-in-cheek humor). On the whole, though. ZMM is just too idealistic, yet again just like Thoreau. Editing by HSG.

B-cont.) A Review: Walden Pond, What Is It?

Is it a book on nature, a book on ecology, a book on human nature, a prescient description of the struggle between modern civilization and the land that nurtured it, a critique of mankind, a string of quotable gems, an account of a mind, or, like Star Wars, a way of slipping a deep and human spirituality into someone else's mind without their recognizing it? It depends on who is doing the reading and when. Read it for any of these purposes, and it will not disappoint. If you've never read it, read it. If you read it for class years ago and hated it, read it again. This may be the most subtle, multi-layered and carefully worked piece of literature you'll ever find. By keeping the down-to-earth tone (no doubt in reaction to the high-flying prose of his friend R. W. Emerson) Thoreau pulls a Columbo, and fools us into thinking he's writing simply about observing nature, living in a cabin, or sounding a pond. Somehow by the end of Walden, however, you may find it is yourself he has sounded. People have accused Thoreau of despising mankind, but read deeper and you will discover he loved people well enough to chide us, show us our faults (admitting he's as bad as the worst of us), and give to all of us this wonderful gift, a book you could base your life on. There is more day to dawn, he reminds us at the end: the sun is but a morning star.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3895082090/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155

B-cont) ZMM, Page 36, Mentions "Chilton’s Motorcycle Troubleshooting Guide” written by Ocee Rich.

Chilton's Manuals, for every possible vehicle, may now be only available from Used Book Sellers. The Blue Link below is an example, albeit pretty expensive. Click Here for "Chilton’s Motorcycle Troubleshooting Guide”
…[Biblio.Com is my favorite BookSeller, used & new, and has far lower price, as you see Blue Link below.
Biblio.Com’s Search Results For =>: Motorcycle Repair Manual

B-cont) ZMM, Page 36, Mentions a "Motorcycle Repair Manual For Your Specific Cycle or Car or Truck, from your vehicle manufacturer or Powell's."

[Back in Sept 2012 we could find Internet Listings where Powell's has 69 Cycle Manuals for seemingly every possible Motorcycle or Other Vehicle!!. But as of this writing Dec 2023. we can NOT find any of these either Used Bookstores or Archive.org. So, any person wanting to follow Mr. Pirsig’s advice, should Bing Or Google for … Motorcycle Repair Manual + the Make and Model of your Cycle. ]

B-Cont .Readers Please Be Aware => ZMM Is A GENERAL TROUBLE-SHOOTING & PROBLEM-SOLVING GUIDE. And in support of this => Below are Two Webpages that echo ZMM In Practical Maintenance. Let me know if you know of others.

a) This Site Offers strategies for computers, but their. GOOD ADVICE CAN BE GENERALIZED TO MOST ANY TROUBLE-SHOOTING & REPAIR ENDEAVOR.

Computer Trouble-Shooting.

b) This Site Has strategies for maintenance and repair of liquid & Hi pressure hydraulic systems, but their GOOD ADVICE CAN BE GENERALIZED TO MOST ANY TROUBLE-SHOOTING & REPAIR ENDEAVOR.

Hydraulic Hints & Trouble Shooting Guide General Product Support (PDF File)

C) The ZMM Narrator Discusses At Length, An Abbreviated History Of Western Philosophy. Author Robert Pirsig, Does This, So As Prepare the Reader Later, For His Own Meta Physics of Quality (MOQ). Shall we say Mr. Pirsig recommends these mentioned Philosophers? =>

Philosophical authors discussed, or just named, include: Socrates, Plato (Platonist), Aristotle (Aristotelian), St. Thomas Aquinas, Berkeley, Hume, Kant, Fichte, Schelling, Hegel, Bradley, Bosanquet, Whitehead, Mathematician Jules Henri Poincaré, and Astronomer- Mathematician. Nicholos Copernicus (Each of these can be well studied at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contents .)
…Of the authors mentioned above, the following have the most mention in ZMM: Aristotle , David Hume ("A Treaties On Human Nature"), Immanuel Kant, ("The Critique of Pure Reason" = "Greatest philosophical treatises ever written"), Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel ("The Science of Logic,")
…Although ZMM is known to be many kinds of books, we see these mentioned authors clearly show that ZMM is to a large extent, a philosophy treatise. Indeed, Pirsig says this ZMM Book develops a “Metaphysic of Quality”, (MoQ), and the word philosopher (or philosophic) is used 106 times in ZMM! The word Quality is used 471 times! And the word value is used 89 times.

D) Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam By Omar Khayyam

[On ZMM page 271 the Narrator, seeing a Persian-Like Desert Cliff above them, is reminded of the ' “'Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam” ''. He is thus is inspired to recite several verses of this poem, much to Chris's dismay! May we conclude that this ~1000 year old Persian poem, has some of the same messages as ZMM? Below, excerpted from the much longer poem, are the several verses that appear in ZMM:]

Morning a thousand Roses brings, you say;
Yes, but where leaves the Rose of Yesterday?
And this first Summer Month that brings the Rose
Shall take Jamshýd and Kaikobád away.

But come with old Khayyám, and leave the Lot
Of Kaikobád and Kaikhosrú forgot!
Let Rustum cry "To Battle!" as he likes,
Or Hátim Tai cry Supper--heed them not.

With me along the strip of Herbage strown
That just divides the Desert from the sown,
Where name of Slave and Sultán is forgot --
And pity Máhmúd on his golden Throne!

For the entire poem and commentary, Click Here. AFTER this page comes up, you may ClickOn any of Editions, First thru Fourth.

E) The University of Chicago's "Great Books Program", Is Mentioned In ZMM, Pages 308 - 324. The Narrator also says that Phaedrus " .....was there solely to write a Great Book of his own." !! .

The ZMM Narrator Mentions favorably UC's Innovative Educational Reforms Which the use of what they called "The Great Books". This eventually led to the publication of The “Great Books”, as a "library set" by the Encyclopedia Britannica Company.
Click Here for Wikipedia Says => “The project for the Great Books of the Western World began at the University of Chicago, where the president, Robert Hutchins, worked with Mortimer Adler to develop there a course of a type originated by John Erskine at Columbia University in 1921, with the innovation of a "round table" approach to reading and discussing great books among professors and undergraduates.[2]—generally aimed at businessmen. The purposes they had in mind were for filling the gaps in their liberal education (including Hutchins' own, self-confessed gaps) and to render the reader an intellectually rounded man or woman familiar with the Great Books of the Western canon and knowledgeable of the Great Ideas visited in the "Great Conversation" over the course of three millennia.”
… On ZMM page 309 Robert Pirsig says => "The work of Aquinas and of the Greeks, as interpreted by Aquinas, was to Adler the capstone of the Western intellectual heritage. Therefore they provided a measuring rod for anyone seeking the good books. ..... man is counted a rational animal, capable of seeking and defining the good life and achieving it. When this 'first principle' about the nature of man was accepted by the president of the University of Chicago, it was inevitable that it would have educational repercussions. ..... ."
"Adler and Hutchins were concerned fundamentally with the "oughts" of life, with values, with Quality and with the foundations of Quality in theoretical philosophy. Thus they had apparently been traveling in the same direction as Phædrus ...... "
…Since the ZMM Narrator mentions how The Great Books Program fostered Quality in the study of man, we deduce that Pirsig supports the contents of these books, and thus an implied recommendation of them.
…The story of Phaedrus going to U. Chicago, and why, starts on p 302.
Click to go to Wikipedia, for history, and full listings of the 137 “Great Books”, developed by U. Chicago President, Robert Hutchins, working with Mortimer Adler .


But Are There More Books/Articles, That Mr. Pirsig Might Suggest? In Sept 07 I asked Mr. Pirsig for his own recommendation reading list. In the letter following mine, you will see thatv he declined, implying that in essence ZMM stands alone. (after click here, scroll to last letter.)

End "Books Mentioned In ZMM" Or LILA. Continue with "Alternates & Extensions For ZMM" Below.



The Following Two Alternatives to ZMM, Are Mentioned by ZMM Author Pirsig In His Talk: “Subjects, Objects, Data, and Values” .

[Mr. Pirsig Mentions These Two Books As Key Influences In Writing His “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” . Anyone who has liked ZMM, will learn much from both of these, especially "Zen and Art In Archery" . But “The Meeting of East and West” is a difficult book. Pirsig even says so in his extensive discussion of Northrop in ZMM.]

In This Talk Robert Pirsig stated: => "For those who would like more information about this "Conceptually Unknown" than I can give today, there is a valuable book called Zen in the Art of Archery by Eugen Herrigel from which I derived the title for my own first book. When the Zen Archer refers to an "it" that shoots the arrow he is referring to what I mean by Dynamic Quality. For those who prefer to stay more within the confines of Western analytical thought there is a book by Prof. F.S.C. Northrop of Yale University called “The Meeting of East and West” . It is the book that really started me on this philosophic quest that has now lasted 47 years."
Click Here To Read Robert Pirsig’s Entire Talk => “Subjects, Objects, Data, and Values” .
Click Here To Read Amazon.com’s Description Of => F.S.C. Northrop’s “The Meeting of East and West” .

F) In the Passage Above Pirsig Mentions How He Was Influenced By The Book “Zen in the Art of Archery” by Eugen Herrigel.

“Zen in the Art of Archery” (ISBN 0679722971) is a book written by Eugen Herrigel in 1953. This was one of the first books to introduce Zen to westerners, and still one of the best for taking the practical route rather than the contemplative. He describes Zen in archery as follows: " “The archer ceases to be conscious of himself as the one who is engaged in hitting the bull's-eye which confronts him. This state of unconscious is realized only when, completely empty and rid of the self, he becomes one with the perfecting of his technical skill, though there is in it something of a quite different order which cannot be attained by any progressive study of the art." ''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery

F-cont) Another Review of “Zen in the Art of Archery” at Amazon.com

So many books have been written about the meditation side of Zen and the everyday, chop wood/carry water side of Zen. But few books have approached Zen the way that most Japanese actually do--through ritualized arts of discipline and beauty--and perhaps that is why Eugen Herrigel's Zen in the Art of Archery is still popular so long after it first publication in 1953. Herrigel, a philosophy professor, spent six years studying archery and flower-arranging in Japan, practicing every day, and struggling with foreign notions such as "eyes that hear and ears that see." In a short, pithy narrative, he brings the heart of Zen to perfect clarity--intuition, imitation, practice, practice, practice, then, boom, wondrous spontaneity fusing self and art, mind, body, and spirit. Herrigel writes with an attention to subtle profundity and relates it with a simple artistry that itself carries the signature of Zen. --By Brian Bruya
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375705090/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155

F-cont) A Third review of “Zen in the Art of Archery” Review: From Audio File

There's more to archery than you think, according to this compact audio, which is based on a 1953 book by a German philosophy professor. His philosophical work addresses intention and personal integration, and the importance of the unconscious in dealing with life's realities. The program's lessons are so broad and practical that you don't have to be attracted to Zen or archery to be thoroughly transported by what's expressed through the teacher-student dialogue. Selecting reader Ralph Blum was a great way to resurrect the ideas in this rich and satisfying book. His academic tone inspires respect and makes the ideas even more intriguing. T. W. © Audio File
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375705090/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155

G) In the Passage Above, Pirsig Mentions How He Was Influenced By The Book “The Meeting of East and West” , by F. S. C. Northrop.

Also on ZMM page 108, the Narrator says: "The difference is that the classic reality is primarily theoretic but has its own esthetics too. The romantic reality is primarily esthetic, but has its theory too. The theoretic and esthetic split is between components of a single world. The classic and romantic split is between two separate worlds. The philosophy book, which is called “The Meeting of East and West” '', by F. S. C. Northrop, suggests that greater cognizance be made of the "undifferentiated aesthetic continuum" from which the theoretic arises."
…Thus Northrop Is Suggested By Pirsig in Both ZMM, and his above mentioned talk “Subjects, Objects, Data and Values” . We take these mentions. as recommendations to read Northrop.
Click Here For Part2 Full Text ZMM Book. From Archive.org AFTER this page comes up (may take a long time), scroll down to words of Italized ZMM Passage above.

G-cont) A Review of The Meeting of East and West,

This is one of those truly great books that slaps your mind awake, offering you a completely new world view and interpretation of intellectual history. This book is partially responsible for my choice to study for a PhD in philosophy. It was a life-changer for me and is especially relevant now with its novel, and I believe, accurate understanding of Mexican culture. A monumental work!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0918024110/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155
Click Here For More Information On This And Two Other Northrop Books From Archive.org

G-cont) My Own Review And Extensive Analysis Of => “The Meeting of East and West” by Henry Gurr, ZMMQ Webmaster

…When Pirsig mentions Northrop's book on ZMM page 108 (Bantam paperback), the ZMM riders are on the way to "the source" in the "high country of the mind" (the first set of mountains in Montana). The ZMM Narrator has just finished his discussion of Phaedrus' lateral drift", and by implication Northrop's book was part of the lateral drift.
…In my view, Northrop's book is a compelling overview of global culture, and how to think about the East and West. His book, published in 1946, is on how these ancient and modern, cultures are about to mix and what could happen.
Read My Extensive Analysis As To How => Author Robert Pirsig’s “Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance” Is Deeply Influenced By Northrop's Meeting of East and West. ''':



H) George Steiner, In His ZMM Book Review, For The New Yorker Magazine", , Points To “Moby Dick” As Being a “Prodigious Comparable” Book To ZMM, saying =>

"It [ZMM] lodges in the mind as few recent novels have...The book is inspired, original...the narrative tact, the perfect economy of effect defy criticism. The analogies with "Moby Dick" are patent. Robert Pirsig invites the prodigious comparison.”
The Entire Steiner Review, Click Here:
A Book Description & A Collection Very Good Amazon ZMM Book Reviews:

On Our Facebook.com/ZmmQuality, ZMMQuality Site Editor David Matos Offers Good Overviews Of The Lives & Literature (With Good Photo) Of MANY Author & Books, Mentioned On This WebPage You Are Reading Now. This Applies Especially To Both Herman Melville and George Steiner =>

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Because Of Steiner's Very Influential Recommendation, I Include The Following Two Moby Dick Reviews, And Where To See An Online Copy Of The Book.

H-cont) Moby Dick. Book Description.

No American masterpiece casts quite as awesome a shadow as Melville's monumental Moby Dick. Mad Captain Ahab's quest for the White Whale is a timeless epic--a stirring tragedy of vengeance and obsession, a searing parable about humanity lost in a universe of moral ambiguity. It is the greatest sea story ever told. Far ahead of its own time, Moby Dick was largely misunderstood and unappreciated by Melville's contemporaries. Today, however, it is indisputably a classic. As D.H. Lawrence wrote, Moby Dick "commands a stillness in the soul, an awe . . . [It is] one of the strangest and most wonderful books in the world."
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0553213113/104-5936441-9895138

H-cont) Moby Dick The Merriam-Webster Encyclopedia of Literature

(in full Moby-Dick; or, The White Whale) Novel by Herman Melville, published in London in October 1851 and published a month later in the United States. Moby Dick is generally regarded as its author's masterpiece and one of the greatest American novels. The basic plot of Moby Dick is simple. The narrator (who asks to be called "Ishmael") tells of the last voyage of the ship Pequod out of New Bedford, Mass. Captain Ahab is obsessed with the pursuit of the white whale Moby-Dick, which finally kills him. On that level, the work is an intense, superbly authentic narrative. Its theme and central figure, however, are reminiscent of Job in his search for justice and of Oedipus in his search for truth. The novel's richly symbolic language and tragic hero are indicative of Melville's deeper concerns: the equivocal defeats and triumphs of the human spirit and its fusion of creative and murderous urges.

H-cont) Full Text Version of “Moby Dick” by Herman Melville. Has Author Information: Also has a “Download PDF (Free)”

Click Here For Online-Literature.com’s Full Text Version of “Moby Dick” by Herman Melville.
…AFTER this page comes up you will see =>

Top Center, a box for “Search” This is a Full Text A Searchable Online Version:
Center Pannel, has an extended “Introduction”.
Left Pannel. Has long list of Chapters, Prolog & Epilog. You may ClickOn any of these, and the Center Pannel will show this content.


MORE ZMM Alternatives Collected By Henry Gurr, WebMaster For This Site.

The Essay Novel Reality by David L Thomas Recommends Several More Books, Which Like ZMM, Are Philosophy Discourse Presented In the Framework of a Novel. Thomas asks:

"But why did Mr. Pirsig spent years crafting a compelling metaphysical theory then disguised it as [two] novels published over 15 years apart? Fiction has a long history of seriously discussing important issues. One only has to scratch fiction's surface to recall Swift's Gulliver's Travels, Orwell's 1984 or the plays and satire of Voltaire. The publishing of Alexander Solzhenitsyn's 1962 novel “A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” is said to have played a significant role in starting the process that led to the recent break up of the Soviet Union. If the following quotes [on web page] are any indication, current novelists also feel their fictions contain strong truths."
The Above Is An Excerpt, Talem From Mr. Thomas’s Much Longer And Very Valuable Essay. Click Here.

Shown Below Are The 4 Books Mr. Thomas Mentions That Are => “Philosophy Discourse Presented In the Framework of a Novel”.

Gulliver's Travels From Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia.

Gulliver's Travels (1726, amended 1735) is a novel by Jonathan Swift that is both a satire on human nature and a parody of the “Travelers' Tales” literary sub-genre. Swift's masterpiece is his most celebrated work and one of the indisputable classics of the English language.
The book was tremendously popular immediately after it was published (Alexander Pope stated that "it is universally read, from the cabinet council to the nursery") and it is likely that it has never been out of print since then. George Orwell declared it amongst the six most indispensable books in world literature. It is claimed the inspiration for Gulliver came from the sleeping giant profile of the Cavehill in Belfast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulliver%27s_Travels

Nineteen Eighty-Four From Wikipedia.

Nineteen Eighty-Four is an allegorical political novel written by George Orwell. The story takes place in a nightmarish dystopia where the omnipresent State enforces perfect conformity among members of a totalitarian Party through indoctrination, propaganda, fear, and ruthless punishment. The novel introduced the concepts of the ever-present, all- seeing Big Brother, Room 101, the Thought Police, and the bureaucrats' and politicians' language of control, Newspeak. The novel was successful in terms of sales, and has remained one of the most influential books of the 20th century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

The plays And Satire Of Voltaire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich

From Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich is a novel by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, set in a Soviet work camp in the 1950s. The novel describes a single day for Ivan Denisovich, more commonly referred to as Shukhov. Ivan Denisovich was first published under the Russian title of Odin den Ivana Denisovicha in 1962. Although it is widely available in book form today, it was originally published in the Soviet literary magazine Novy Mir in November 1962. The novel was originally written in Russian, so it should be noted that any English copy is a translation. At least four English translations have been made.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Day_in_the_Life_of_Ivan_Denisovich



The Following Book Is Regularly Mentioned, With ZMM, as a Popular Story Based Philosophy Book. (Four Reviews Are Included.)

…Above Mr. David L. Thomas’s essay “Novel Reality”, discusses 4 books that are => “Philosophy Discourse Presented In the Framework of a Novel”. He should have added “Sophie's World” into his examples of books that are really philosophy discourse presented as a Reality Novel.

“Sophie's World” by Jostein Gaarder.

…{The following, are two questions are presented to Sophie, a fifteen year-old Norwegian girl.) =>
“Who are you? Where does the world come from? The writer of these questions to teenage Sophie is an enigmatic philosopher called Albert Knox, and his two teasing questions are the beginning of an extraordinary tour through the history of Western Philosophy from the pre-Socratics to Satre. In a series of brilliantly entertaining letters, and then in person (with his dog, Hermes), Albert Knox opens Sophie's enquiring mind to the fundamental questions that philosophers have been asking since the dawn of civilization. .. But soon
Sophie begins to find her feet in this dazzling, exciting new world, she and Albert find themselves caught up in a plot which itself is a most perplexing philosophical conundrum...
Years Ago, The Following Good Recommendations Were Found on Ebay.com =>
..."Sophie's World is set to become a unique popular classic: a wonderfully engaging mystery story that also forms a completely accessible and lucid introduction to philosophy and philosophers." - The Times
…"Remarkable...What Jostein Gaarder has managed to do is to condense 3,000 years of thought into 400 pages; to simplify some extremely complicated arguments without trivialising them...Sophie's World is an extraordinary achievement." - Sunday Times
… PRODUCT INFORMATION: “A page-turning novel that is also an exploration of the great philosophical concepts of Western thought, Jostein Gaarder's Sophie's World has fired the imagination of readers all over the world, with more than twenty million copies in print. One day fourteen-year-old Sophie Amundsen comes home from school to find in her mailbox two notes, with one question on each: "Who are you?" and "Where does the world come from?" From that irresistible beginning, Sophie becomes obsessed with questions that take her far beyond what she knows of her Norwegian village. Through those letters, she enrolls in a kind of correspondence course, covering Socrates to Sartre, with a mysterious philosopher, while receiving letters addressed to another girl. Who is Hilde? And why does her mail keep turning up? To unravel this riddle, Sophie must use the philosophy she is learning--but the truth turns out to be far more complicated than she could have imagine” .

Wikipedia Says "Sophie's World (Sofies Verden in the original Norwegian) is a novel by Jostein Gaarder, published in 1991. It was originally written in Norwegian, but has since been translated into English (1995) and many other languages. .. Mostly consisting of dialogues between Sophie Amundsen and a mysterious man named Alberto Knox, interwoven with an increasingly bizarre and mysterious plot, Sophie's World acts as both a novel and a basic guide to philosophy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie%27s_World

Sophie's World. From Publishers Weekly

This long, dense novel, a bestseller in the author's native Norway, offers a summary history of philosophy embedded in a philosophical mystery disguised as a children's book-but only sophisticated young adults would be remotely interested. Sophie Amundsen is about to turn 15 when she receives a letter from one Alberto Knox, a philosopher who undertakes to educate her in his craft. Sections in which we read the text of Knox's lessons to Sophie about the pre-Socratics, Plato and St. Augustine alternate with those in which we find out about Sophie's life with her well-meaning mother. Soon, though, Sophie begins receiving other, stranger missives addressed to one Hilde Moller Knag from her absent father, Albert. As Alberto Knox's lessons approach this century, he and Sophie come to suspect that they are merely characters in a novel written by Albert for his daughter. Teacher and pupil hatch a plot to understand and possibly escape from their situation; and from there, matters get only weirder. Norwegian philosophy professor Gaarder's notion of making a history of philosophy accessible is a good one. Unfortunately, it's occasionally undermined by the dry language he uses to describe the works of various thinkers and by an idiosyncratic bias that gives one paragraph to Nietzsche but dozens to Sartre, breezing right by Wittgenstein and the most influential philosophy of this century, logical positivism. Many readers, regardless of their age, may be tempted to skip over the lessons, which aren't well integrated with the more interesting and unusual metafictional story line. Author tour. Copyright 1994 Reed Business Information, Inc.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0425152251/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155

Sophie's World. Editorial Reviews Amazon.com

Wanting to understand the most fundamental questions of the universe isn't the province of ivory-tower intellectuals alone, as this book's enormous popularity has demonstrated. A young girl, Sophie, becomes embroiled in a discussion of philosophy with a faceless correspondent. At the same time, she must unravel a mystery involving another young girl, Hilde, by using everything she's learning. The truth is far more complicated than she could ever have imagined.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0425152251/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155



Other Books That Have Been Suggested as Alternatives Or Extensions To ZMM.

[These, like ZMM, are thought provoking books that will make you think about your life and what you are about. You will be a better person after reading them.]

“Jonathan Livingston Seagull” by Richard Bach. Editorial Reviews. Amazon.com

"Most gulls don't bother to learn more than the simplest facts of flight--how to get from shore to food and back again," writes author Richard Bach in this allegory about a unique bird named Jonathan Livingston Seagull. "For most gulls it is not flying that matters, but eating. For this gull, though, it was not eating that mattered, but flight." Flight is indeed the metaphor that makes the story soar. Ultimately this is a fable about the importance of seeking a higher purpose in life, even if your flock, tribe, or neighborhood finds your ambition threatening. (At one point our beloved gull is even banished from his flock.) By not compromising his higher vision, Jonathan gets the ultimate payoff: transcendence. Ultimately, he learns the meaning of love and kindness. The dreamy seagull photographs by Russell Munson provide just the right illustrations--although the overall packaging does seem a bit dated (keep in mind that it was first published in 1970). Nonetheless, this is a spirituality classic, and an especially engaging parable for adolescents. --Gail Hudson
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380012863/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155

“Jonathan Livingston Seagull” From Audio File.

Jonathan Livingston Seagull is a bird who teaches us how to follow our dreams and reach our goals, no matter what anyone else might think. Jonathan is a seagull who wants to master the art of flying, even though his flock has told him many times that all seagulls should concentrate on is getting food. Jonathan has tried to be a "good gull," but he cannot quell his urge to fly. Richard Bach reads this fable in a calm voice that sounds like a blowing wind. When there's fighting among the gulls, the tone of his voice reflects that
anger. Jonathan's tale moves us as much as Richard Bach's voice does. J.F.M. ©
Audio File 2004, Portland, Maine--
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380012863/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155


“Gift from the Sea” : by Anne Morrow Lindbergh.

Anne Morrow Lindbergh's lyrical words are still relevant and presage so many of the themes of today's most popular books: simplicity, peaceful solitude, caring for the soul, a woman finding her place in society and life. I heard that the woman who had lived in the cabin had actually passed away some time before. Thank you, Eve, for your gift... from the sea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0679732411/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155

Cont: “Gift from the Sea” : by Anne Morrow Lindbergh. Book Description

A modern-day classic. “Gift from the Sea” is like a shell itself in its small and perfect form . . . It tells of light and life and love and the security that lies at the heart."--New York Times Book Review.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0679732411/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155

“The Little Prince” by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry.

The Little Prince (French: Le Petit Prince, pronounced [lə p(ə) i pʁɛ̃s]) is a novella written and illustrated by French aristocrat, writer, and military pilot Antoine de Saint-Exupéry. It was first published in English and French in the United States by Reynal & Hitchcock in April 1943 and was published posthumously in France following liberation; Saint-Exupéry's works had been banned by the Vichy Regime. The story follows a young prince who visits various planets, including Earth, and addresses themes of loneliness, friendship, love, and loss. Despite its style as a children's book, The Little Prince makes observations about life, adults, and human nature.[9]
The Little Prince became Saint-Exupéry's most successful work, selling an estimated 140 million copies worldwide, which makes it one of the best-selling in history.[10][11][12][Note 2][14] The book has been translated into over 505 different languages and dialects worldwide, being the second most translated work ever published, trailing only the Bible.[15][16][17] The Little Prince has been adapted to numerous art forms and media, including audio recordings, radio plays, live stage, film, television, ballet, and opera.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Prince

“Pilgrim at Tinker Creek” By Annie Dillard

An exhilarating meditation on nature and its seasons-a personal narrative highlighting one year's exploration on foot in the author's own neighborhood in Tinker Creek, Virginia. In the summer, Dillard stalks muskrats in the creek and contemplates wave mechanics; in the fall she watches a monarch butterfly migration and dreams of Arctic caribou. She tries to con a coot; she collects pond water and examines it under a microscope. She unties a snake skin, witnesses a flood, and plays -'King of the Meadow' with a field of grasshoppers.
http://books.google.com/books?id=9HCxkii9oGsC&dq=pilgrim+at+tinkers+creek

Cont: “Pilgrim at Tinker Creek” By Annie Dillard

The Pulitzer Prize-winning Pilgrim at Tinker Creek is a series of interconnected essays which challenge the listener to contemplate the natural world beyond its commonplace surfaces. ….. Dillard's beautiful alliterative phrasing, glorious imagery, and inspired themes. ….[makes the book full of] …. meanings of this energetic, Thoreauvian ramble through Nature's seasons and secrets. Coming across a cedar tree one day, Dillard sees "the tree with the lights in it," a spiritual phenomenon emblematic of her uncanny way of knowing what is real and true about a universe designed by "a maniac." Cassidy brilliantly conveys Dillard the seer interacting with the grotesque majesties of the scene.
http://www.amazon.com/Pilgrim-Tinker-Creek-Annie-Dillard/dp/0060953020

“Pilgrims Progress” . Customer Review.

"Let it be clear that I am commenting on The Pilgrim's Progress as literature, indeed, as great literature. The religious content of the book is plain in any version. From Bunyan, it is a plain-spoken tale effectively told by a plain-spoken and popular preacher. Bunyan's book, though, is far from being the touchy-feely, ecumenically-friendly thing that the modernized versions might suggest. After all, Bunyan managed to get himself into hot legal water in 1658 when the Puritan-dominated English Republic was in power and then again when the Anglican-dominated Restoration of Charles II came along."
Pilgrims Progress. Customer Review.

“The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People” by Steven Covey

Editorial Reviews Amazon.com.
Powerful Lessons in Personal Change was a groundbreaker when it was first published in 1990, and it continues to be a business bestseller with more than 10 million copies sold. [Recent figure is over 15 Million.] Stephen Covey, an internationally respected leadership authority, realizes that true success encompasses a balance of personal and professional effectiveness, so this book is a manual for performing better in both arenas. His anecdotes are as frequently from family situations as from business challenges.
…Before you can adopt the seven habits, you'll need to accomplish what Covey calls a "paradigm shift"--a change in perception and interpretation of how the world works. Covey takes you through this change, which affects how you perceive and act regarding productivity, time management, positive thinking, developing your "proactive muscles" (acting with initiative rather than reacting), and much more.
…This isn't a quick-tips-start-tomorrow kind of book. The concepts are sometimes intricate, and you'll want to study this book, not skim it. When you finish, you'll probably have Post-it notes or hand-written annotations in every chapter, and you'll feel like you've taken a powerful seminar by Covey. --Joan Price --

“The Knowledge-Creating Company” by Ikujiro Nonaka and Hirotaka Takeuchi .

"We found it the book most frequently cited by practicing managers. It offers a good blend of theory (distinguishing tact and explicit knowledge, describing knowledge conversion processes and the knowledge-creating spiral) and practical examples including innovation at Matushita, Canon and Honda. The seminal book on the subject."
http://www.skyrme.com/resource/kmres.htm

“Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid” by Douglas Hofstadter.

Editorial Reviews Amazon.com.
Twenty years after it topped the bestseller charts, Douglas R. Hofstadter's “Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid'” is still something of a marvel. Besides being a profound and entertaining meditation on human thought and creativity, this book looks at the surprising points of contact between the music of Bach, the artwork of Escher, and the mathematics of Gödel. It also looks at the prospects for computers and artificial intelligence (AI) for mimicking human thought. For the general reader and the computer techie alike, this book still sets a standard for thinking about the future of computers and their relation to the way we think.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465026567/104-5936441-9895138?v=glance&n=283155



In Juian Baggini, Interviewing Robert Pirsig, Starts The Interview with the Following Question, and Then Answers By Naming 4 Important Books:

“What Is the Most Important Work of Philosophy To Be Written In the Last Fifty Years? Ask a panel of experts and you'll probably be told it's something like Rawls's “Theory of Justice” , Mac Intyre's “After Virtue” , or Kuhn's “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions”, all books the average person in the street has never heard of. Jo Public is most likely to remember an international bestseller: “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values” by Robert M Pirsig, published in 1974.
[[https://psybertron.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Pirsig-Baggini-TPM-Online.htm |Click Here For Complete Interview Robert Pirsig Interview.
NOTE: After this page comes up, you see that Interviewer Juian Baggini, has a VERY long series of opening statements. The first real question is at => “So, for instance, I began by asking” So, for instance, I began by asking,

The Quaker Earth Care Witness Webpage Suggests Two More Important Authors.

Other people, coming from different religious traditions or inspired by such writers as “Pierre Teilhard de Chardin” and “Albert Schweitzer” , recognize an invisible bond between themselves and the physical world--a universal stream of inner vitality they may label "spiritual." Their experience of being "in unity with nature" isn't mere aesthetic appreciation; it is a profound recognition that humankind and the Earth share a common lifeblood, a common pulse, and a common destiny. Whatever the origins of our Earth-consciousness, we can explore and nurture it by intimate contact with nature herself:
By Jack Phillips
The Above Is Excerpted From => What Do We Mean by saying, “Our concern for the Earth is a spiritual one”?

This Webpage Whole Systems Quotes Offers Another Way To Discover Recommended Books and Authors.

See http://www.worldtrans.org/whole/wsquotes.html



Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (ZMM) Is a Writers' Book!

Mid ZMM Chapter 17, Author Robert Pirsig discusses how to teach good writing, and how to support the creative process. And because of this emphasis, author Pirsig has stated that “he better be dammed sure” his book was good writing!! I Henry Gurr, and many others believe he was quite successful at this.
…Indeed ZMM is used as a text in university writing courses around the world! I was able to find 16 universities where ZMM is used in writing courses. To see these use the Edit > Find > write after this page comes up =>
http://venturearete.org/ResearchProjects/ProfessorGurr/index.php/Documents/ZmmAmpUniversity

Since ZMM) Is a Writers' Book! => Here are 3 Other Good Books On The Writing Process.

…See Amazon.com for more info and to view what these books look like.
…But for actual purchase, you should consider other Book Sellers, like for example my Henry Gurr’s Favorite => https://www.biblio.com/

“The Making of Truth” by Theodore L. Brown Click Here.

… How does science work? Making Truth: Metaphor in Science argues that most laypeople, and many scientists, do not have a clear understanding of how metaphor relates to scientific thinking. With stunning clarity, and bridging the worlds of scientists and nonscientists, Theodore L. Brown demonstrates the presence and the power of metaphorical thought.

“Science As Writing” by David Locke (1992) Click Here.

… For many years it has been assumed that a great gulf exists between science and the humanities, that the writings of science are simply the record of things scientists do and find and are devoid of literary features. Recently this assumption has been challenged by those who regard science and literature as companion endeavors, working side by side to describe, in their respective ways, the world of human experience.

What Reading Robert Pirsig Taught Me About Writing (And Life): Lessons From Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. By Bernadette Murphy June 5, 2017.

“The Elements of Style” by William Strunk and E. B. White Click Here.

Strunk and White's book reviewed by New York Times: "Buy it, study it, enjoy it. It's as timeless as a book can be in our age of volubility".
…William Strunk Jr. (1 July 1869 – 26 September 1946), was a professor of English at Cornell University and author of the The Elements of Style (1918). After revision and enlargement by his former student E. B. White, it became a highly influential guide to English usage during the late 20th century, commonly called Strunk & White. Bio from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
From A Review =>
"...a marvellous and timeless little book... Here, succinctly, elegantly and without fuss are the essentials of writing clear, correct English."
― John Clare, The Telegraph
From the Back Cover +>
…"Buy it, study it, enjoy it. It's as timeless as a book can be in our age of volubility."
― The New York Times
"No book in shorter space, with fewer words, will help any writer more than this persistent little volume."
― The Boston Globe
"White is one of the best stylists and most lucid minds in this country. What he says and his way of saying it are equally rewarding."
― The Wall Street Journal
"The book remains a nonpareil: direct, correct, and delightful."
― The New Yorker
"Should be the daily companion of anyone who writes for a living, and for that matter, anyone who writes at all."
― Greensboro (N.C.) Daily News
"This excellent book, which should go off to college with every freshman, is recognized as the best book of its kind we have."
― St. Paul Dispatch – Pioneer Press
"It's hard to imagine an engineer or a manager who doesn't need to express himself in English prose as part of his job. It's also hard to imagine a writer who will not be improved by a liberal application of The Elements of Style."
― Telephone Engineer & Management

Those who need help on writing might take a university writing course or get editing help. Bing or Google will find many resources for you to consider. But as of this writing (Dec 6, 2023) you might consider => http://www.firstediting.com/



ZMM Alternatives Mentioned by Various Literary People.

The Catcher in the Rye is a novel by J. D. Salinger.

First published in the United States in 1951, the novel has been a frequently challenged book in its home country for its liberal use of profanity and portrayal of sexuality and teenage angst. .. Originally published for adults,[4] the novel has become a common part of high school and college curricula throughout the English-speaking world; it has also been translated into almost all of the world's major languages.[5] Around 250,000 copies are sold each year, with total sales of more than 65 million.[6] .. The novel was chosen by Time magazine as one of the 100 best English-language novels from 1923 to the present.[7]
…The novel's protagonist, Holden Caulfield, has become an icon for teenage rebellion and defiance.[8] Written in the first person, The Catcher in the Rye follows Holden's experiences in New York City in the days following his expulsion from Pencey Prep, a college preparatory school.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye
Scroll Down for the reviews at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Catcher-Rye-J-D-Salinger/dp/0316769487

“Blue Highways: A Journey Into America.“ , by William Least Heat-Moon. This Book, Like The ZMM Book Is About Following Specific Highways, The Experiences Encountered While Traveling.

[This book] spent 42 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list in 1982-83, is a chronicle of a three-month-long road trip that Heat-Moon took throughout the United States in 1978, after losing his teaching job and being left by his wife. He travelled 13,000 miles, as much as possible on secondary roads (often drawn on maps in blue, esp. on the old style Rand McNally road atlas) and tried to avoid cities, living out of the back of his van "Ghost Dancing" and visiting small towns such as Nameless, Tennessee; Hachita, New Mexico; and Bagley, Minnesota in an attempt to find places in America that were untouched by fast food chains and interstate highways. The book chronicles the people he talked to in roadside cafés as well as his personal soul-searching.
https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Highways-Journey-into-America/dp/0316353299
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Least_Heat-Moon

“Prairyerth: A Deep Map.” and “River Horse: The Logbook Of A Boat Across America”, by William Least Heat-Moon.

Prairyerthis a deep map account of Chase County, Kansas, and River Horse is an account of a four-month coast-to-coast boat trip across the U.S., using only the nation's waterways, and explores Heat-Moon's continuing observation of American culture. River Horse details Heat-Moon's retracing of Lewis and Clark's exploration of the American frontier in a nation at the end of the Twentieth century and only a short time from the rude awaking of September 11th. The reader can sense the same internal search through River Horse that the writer began with Blue Highways: for an America stripped of the commercial fog and tabloid mentality that often masks the great strengths of her people.
https://www.amazon.com/PrairyErth-Deep-William-Least-Heat-Moon/dp/039592569X
https://www.amazon.com/River-Horse-Logbook-Boat-Across-America/dp/0140298606
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Least_Heat-Moon



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Following Are Suggestions Of Good Alternatives Collected From Reader Book Reviews for ZMM, On Amazon.com. The Books Mentioned Are Stated To Be Valuable, Interesting, and Cover similar subjects to ZMM.

Ajai Narendran_ (Amrita Institutions) -
I'm just reminded of a brilliant short story “Inside and Outside” by Herman Hesse that gives immense insight into the spirit lurking within ZAMM!

J. A. Geary “jageary" _ (Lakeland, FL USA)
"Zen etc." is a haunting, quintessentially American jewel of insight, reflection and expression. It ranks alongside James Agee's and Walker Evans' “Let Us Now Praise Famous Men” in the richness of its subject and its defiance of easy categorization.

Fire Captain_ (New York City) -
Another book which I truly appreciate is by Ariel & Shya Kane called “Working On Yourself Doesn't Work.” The Kanes' book is a classic one that guides you in creating an easy, fulfilling and rich life. The Kanes' also have some great audio tapes available such as Magical Relationships, which bring the listener right into one of their inspiring and fun seminars.

Prof Sir Harvey Crichton_ (London, England) -
It [ZMM] did change my life. I grew up to be a Philosophy Professor and know a few school fellows who went mentally ill. Utterly relevant wonderful journey of insight, freedom of the human soul. ...... I'm shocked at some of the middle of the road views on this book. Ignore them. I mean it. It's a really special book to make top critical acclaim and be a underground classic and something that a BA Philosophy graduate would cherish. I read it pre degree. A RARE book. It is a genuine modern classic. in the first class sense. I can think of stuff like Wilde`s “The Happy Prince” or something equally inspiring and beautiful... It has the same kind of greatness and depth to it and beauty and wisdom and all rolled into one ...... Also, the travel journal parts of the story are enjoyable in the same way as another traveler's writing--William Least-Heat Moon's “Blue Highways” . I can think of stuff like Wilde`s “The Happy Prince” or something equally inspiring and beautiful...

colin malone_ (Denton, TX, USA)
I just wanted to say that although this book is a work of great importance and genius on its own, and can be very valuable without any knowledge of zen, an understanding of some zen principles can bring on a whole new level of comprehension of the book (and no, you don't have to be a Buddhist for this to help). “A good place to start is with the writings of D. T. Suzuki. ” Although his writings are many years old now, the language is timeless, and his simple, reverent style is very readable. Read his Introduction to Zen, and then read this book again. You'll be amazed at what you missed the first time around.
[ Wikipedia Excerpt => “Daisetsu Teitaro Suzuki (鈴木 大拙 貞太郎, Suzuki Daisetsu Teitarō, 18 October 1870 – 12 July 1966), self-rendered in 1894 as "Daisetz", was a Japanese essayist, philosopher, religious scholar, translator, and writer. He was a scholar and author of books and essays on Buddhism, Zen and Shin that were instrumental in spreading interest in both Zen and Shin (and Far Eastern philosophy in general) to the West. Suzuki was also a prolific translator of Chinese, Japanese, and Sanskrit literature. Suzuki spent several lengthy stretches teaching or lecturing at Western universities, and devoted many years to a professorship at Ōtani University, a Japanese Buddhist school. He was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1963.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._T._Suzuki ]

Reviewer: A Reader
[ZMM Is] Good book. This book taught me to "pay attention when life goes awry." In some ways, this is a mysterious book because it is not so much fiction as it is the author's life. Not your average sort of book - it's wise, honest and solid. I also highly recommend “Open Your Mind, Open Your Life: A Little Book of Eastern Wisdom” by Taro Gold. Excellent.

Siddhartha Azad "http://www.ashtophoenix.com" (New York, NY, USA) - .
But if you are looking for a REAL philosophy, “The Gita” presents this idea most beautifully, building it upon the Veda and Sankhya philosophies.

Reviewer: A Reader
For a better search on 'what it all means' read Gregg Easterbrook's “Beside Still Waters” and for the fascination with our day to day lives, I prefer the first two Nicholson Baker novels. Nevertheless, I still highly recommend this book [ZMM]. The interspersion of the trip with Pirsig's study of values is quite well done.

Reviewer: A Reader.
But in contrast to most other philosophers, Pirsig writes a compelling story. And he is a true innovator in his attempt to popularize a reconciliation of Eastern mindfulness and nonrationalism with Western subject/object dualism. The magic of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance turns out to lie not in the answers it gives, but in the questions it raises and the way it raises them. Like a cross between ‘‘‘ ‘‘ “The Razor's Edge” and ‘‘‘ ‘‘ “Sophie's World” , Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance takes us into "the high country of the mind" and opens our eyes to vistas of possibility.

jmk444’‘‘ ‘‘ “_ (Staten Island, New York, USA)
There are only a handful of books that have really changed the way I've looked at things; Jerzy Kosinski's “The Painted Bird “, Victor Frankl's “Man's Search for Meaning” , Julian Jayne's “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bi-Cameral Mind” , Ludwig von Mises' “Human Action” and Robert M. Pirsig's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” ''' (ZMM). Pirsig's book may be the most profound because it not only challenges, but re-labels our entire thought process, challenging many of our most deeply held values.

Reviewer: Magellan (Santa Clara, CA)
Didn't live up to my expectations. I'm sure this book [ZMM] did literally affect and change the lives of millions of people who read it and thought it was great, but then, they probably weren't that well read in philosophy so it was all new. ..... but I personally found it to be pretty thin gruel considering the book's amazingly stellar reputation. If you want to read a better book on eastern philosophy, I would recommend you try Alan Watt's The Book: “'On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are” . I never gave Watts his full due of respect back in the 60's and 70's, .....Well, looking back, that's perhaps too harsh an assessment, and I will say that Watt's book is an extremely well-written, concise, and clear introduction to “Vedantic ” thought that is as relevant today as it was 35 years ago.

“Reviewer Title: The Joy of Engagement! ”
Perhaps the closest book to this one [ZMM] is Hermann Hesse's “'Siddhartha” . At the same time, there is also a strong flavor of Zen and the Art of Archery”. “On the Road” by Jack Kerouac covers some of the same intellectual and emotional territory. John Steinbeck's “Of Mice and Men” considers some of the same questions of personal perspective. In terms of challenging the constrictions of society, there is also an element of “The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit” '' . .... Ultimately, I felt uplifted by the high respect that Mr. Pirsig has for his readers. He takes us very seriously, thinks we are intelligent, and pays us the compliment of believing that we can learn to fundamentally change all of our perspectives and experiences.
…After you finish this [Pirsig’s] book (if you decide to read it), I suggest that you think about where you disengaged from the challenges, tasks, and people around you. Then, pick out one area and get deeply involved. As you master that one, take on another. And so on. Soon, you will have new and greater respect for yourself . . . and more rewarding relationships.
Get your hands dirty! ALL ZMM ENTHUSIASTS MUST TRY THIS ENTIRE LAST PARAGRAPH.

James Rose (London)
I would refer the reader to a much more rewarding philosophical journey, equally as good in exercising the mind, and one in which there is actually a significant philosophical outcome. Try “God, Science and the Cosmic Jigsaw” by Jonathan Kingsley. This provides a very thought-provoking bridge between science and religion.

kaia_espina ' “_ (Quezon City, Philippines)
I can find connections between the ideas in this novel and those in the essays of Ralph Waldo Emerson, "The Parables Of Khalil Gibran '' “, the poetry of T. S. Eliot, the books of the Bible, and other great spiritual or philosophical literature that generations have read and shared.


DATE-LINE Dec 7, 2023, by Henry Gurr => Back In ~2012, Amazon.com "Look Inside Book" Said That “660 Books Cite The ZMM Book, Somewhere in their Text”!!

Thus we may assume that =. The Authors Of These Books Thus Implicitly Recommend ZMM! And it is likely that these books offer similar reading and topics as ZMM itself.

…Thereupon, HSG Extensively Tried To Find Any Leads To This Information. And Although Nothing Related To 660 Books Was Found, The Following Valuable Interesting Information & Listings Of. Recommended Books Was Found =>

A) Other Books Related To Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
Because Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance uses an unconventional format that blends autobiography, fiction, and philosophy, it connects to a wide array of works. The book engages explicitly with the 18th-century Scottish philosopher David Hume’s A Treatise of Human Nature, as well as the 18th-century German philosopher Immanuel Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason. Pirsig’s narrator also references the Tao Te Ching, an ancient philosophical and religious text by the Chinese philosopher Lao Tzu. Notably, the character Phaedrus is named after a participant in a dialogue with Socrates from Plato’s text, Phaedrus.
https://www.litcharts.com/lit/zen-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance

B) What Is The Scientific Method By Robert Pirsig?
The real purpose of scientific method is to make sure Nature hasn't misled you into thinking you know something you don't actually know. There's not a mechanic or scientist or technician alive who hasn't suffered from that one so much that he's not instinctively on guard.
Robert Pirsig On Scientific Method, At Arizona.edu

C) Who Is Phaedrus In Zen?
Zen was also a way for Pirsig to come to terms with his pre-insanity self, whom he refers to as Phaedrus, after the character in Plato's dialogues. Phaedrus haunts the book, teasing Pirsig with glimpses into the mind and life he had before his breakdown.
Pirsig's Pilgrims - Montana State University.

D) What Does Pirsig Mean By Quality?
Equating it with the Tao, Pirsig postulates that Quality is the fundamental force in the universe stimulating everything from atoms to animals to evolve and incorporate ever greater levels of Quality. According to the MOQ, everything (including ideas, and matter) is a product and a result of Quality.
Pirsig's Metaphysics of Quality – Wikipedia.

E) What Is Robert Pirsig’s “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” About => “The book is a fictionalized account of a cross-country motorcycle trip that Pirsig took in 1968 with his 11-year-old son, Christopher, and two friends. It is a meditation on how to live better, set around the narration of the trip. The book's main argument is that we won't get to the truth about life through pursuing answers through the rational mind only.
The Above Is From New York Times => Robert M. Pirsig, Author of 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Apr 24, 2017.
This Book Includes The Following:

1) The Church Of Reason: The idea that you can find spirituality through education and learning about life
2) The Chautauqua meaning: A group of philosophical ideas that are woven into the narrative
3) Quality: The thesis aims to probe the meaning of quality and the account of modern crisis caused by the absence of quality

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APPENDIX I:

A Listing Of The Books, Articles, Authors Of Books, Or Important Persons, That Are Found In Robert Pirsig’s Book “Lila”.

NOTE: In addition to showing below, Author’s Names & Titles, you will often see in addition, much larger phrase. This is intended to show the larger context needed for proper understanding.

“Lila” First Half, In Pretty Much Order Of First Mention In Book.
John Von Neumann ||
Montana State College Professor Vern Dusenberry ||
Ten Bears, a Comanche chief. ||
At university, he took out the best books he could find on anthropology ||
Prof. Åke Hultkranz ||
Copy of a speech made at the Medicine Lodge ||
council of 1867 by Ten Bears, a Comanche chief. ||
John Wooden Leg ||
by the anthropologist, E. A. Hoebel ||
William S. Boyd playing Hopalong Cassidy ||
Mark Twain ||
Franz Boas, who in 1899 had become Columbia University's first professor of anthropology
Students working within his [Franz Boaz] intellectual domain became famous: Margaret Mead, Ruth Benedict, Robert Lowie, Edward Sapir, Alfred Kroeber, Paul Radin and other. ||
On one slip, headed "Goldschmidt," Phædrus copied down the statement that, "This empiricism, this concern with fact, with detail, with preserving the record, Boas
Thomas Jefferson. ||
Jean Jacques Rousseau ||
"Theory in Anthropology" by Robert Manners and David Kaplan ||
anthropologist Marshall Sahlins ||
Imagine someone telling Einstein, "You can't say 'E=mc2.' It's too general, too reductionist. ||
"William James Sidis could speak five languages and read Plato in ||
the original Greek by the age of five. ||
Cathie Slater Spence entitled, "In Search of the April Fool." ||
Dan Mahony of Ipswich, Massachusetts, ||
Mahony sent Sidis's book The Animate and Inanimate to another eccentric genius, Buckminster Fuller, Fuller ||
Alfred Kroeber, who with Harvard anthropology professor, Clyde Kluckhohn, ||
Culture: a Critical Review of Concepts and Definitions ||
Ruth Benedict's Patterns of Culture ||
anthropologist, E. A. Hoebel, ||
A. N. Whitehead ||
David Mandelbaum noted in his book The Plains Cree, ||
anthropology book called La Prééminence de la Main Droite by Robert Hertz ||
The Masks of God. ||
The Tribes and the States in which Sidis argues persuasively that the New England political system was profoundly influenced by the democratic federation of the Penacook Indians. ||
and the States in which Sidis argues persuasively that the New England political system was profoundly influenced by the democratic federation of the Penacook Indians. ||
from one of Boas' students, Alfred Kroeber, who with Harvard anthropology professor, Clyde Kluckhohn ||
On one slip, headed "Goldschmidt," Phædrus copied down the statement that, "This empiricism, this concern with fact, with detail, with preserving the record, Boas transmitted to his students and to anthropology. ||

Sociologists Judith Blake and Kingsley Davis had the following to ||
say about values: ||
Metaphysics is what Aristotle called the First Philosophy ||
“A Critical Review of Concepts and Definitions” they said ||
Logical positivism's criteria for "meaningfulness" were pure metaphysics ||
honored philosophers in history have been mystics: Plotinus, Swedenborg, Loyola, Shankaracharya and many others. ||
celebrity, John Lennon ||
Professor Alice Tyler, at the beginning of her first lecture on the Victorians saying, "This is the period of American history I just hate to teach." ||
Young people of the twenties read Hemingway, Dos Passos and Fitzgerald, ||
the mathematician and astronomer, Henri Poincaré ||
John Locke pointed out ||
Ruth Benedict's Patterns of Culture ||
Joan of Arc was a shaman ||
A. N. Whitehead wrote that "mankind is driven forward by dim apprehensions of things too obscure for its existing language," ||
David Mandelbaum noted in his book The Plains Cree ||
in an essay by Walker Percy called "The Delta Factor." ||
not Darwin but Jean Baptiste Lamarck, maintained that all life was evolving toward perfection, a synonym for Quality. Alfred Wallace, who forced Darwin to publish ||
in a Scientific American article by Ernst Mayr. ||
As the atomic physicist, Niels Bohr, said, "We are suspended in language." ||
Then he said, "Here's to Pancho Piquet." ||
Heinrich Schliemann?" he asked. "Heinrich Who?" "He was an archaeologist who investigated the ruins of a city people thought was mythological: ancient Troy. "Before Schliemann used what he called the stratographic technique ||
Suddenly Lila knew who he reminded her of. Sidney Shedar. ||

“Lila” Second Half, In Pretty Much Order Of First Mention In Book.
The talk with Redford had suddenly converged on Blake school. There was a pretty girl, played by Priscilla Lane, he seemed to remember, who was having romantic difficulties with the handsome young leading man-maybe it was Richard Powell. ||
If scientists had simply said Copernicus was right and Ptolemy was wrong without any willingness to further the subject, ||
When E. B. White wrote, "If you want to live in New York you should be willing to be lucky," he meant not just "lucky" but willing to be lucky-that is, Dynamic. ||
The bigger they are the later they come, and this one, Robert Redford, was very big indeed. ||
Phædrus remembered that George Burns had joked that he'd been at Hollywood parties where the people were so famous they never showed up at all. ||
What a start. . . . [Now, For The => ] Real Charlie Chaplin scene. Redford goes ahead into the sitting room, walks to the glass doors and looks over the park, ||
The New Yorker critic George Steiner had warned Phædrus. "At least you don't have to worry about a film," he'd said. The book seemed too intellectual for anyone to try it. Then he'd told Steiner his book was already under option to 20th Century-Fox. Steiner's eyes widened and then turned away. “What’s the matter with that?" Phædrus had asked. "You're going to be very sorry," Steiner had said. ||
[Celebrity is a form of Hell. Thus =>] Dante's Christian hell is an after-life of eternal torment, but Zen hell is this world right here and now, ||
[Celebrity is a form of Hell. Thus =>] The endless dreary exploitation of Marilyn Monroe ||
But an evolutionary morality argues that the North was right in pursuing that war because a nation is a higher form of evolution than a human body, and the principle of human equality is an even higher form than a nation. John Brown's truth was never an abstraction. It still keeps marching on. ||
in the Odyssey Homer seemed at times to be equating Quality and celebrity. ||
As Sam Goldwyn said, "If you got a message send a telegram." Don't make a movie out of it. Pictures aren't intellectual media. Pictures are pictures. The movie business belonged to the celebrity people and they wouldn't begin to know how to portray an intellectual book like his. And even if they did, the public wouldn't buy it, probably, and that would be the end of their money. ||
It was like Calvinistic Grace. There was a chance for you. That was all. They were offering you a chance. … ||
On the other hand, Herbert Hoover and Douglas MacArthur were biologically outside the Victorian period most of their lives. But they were Victorians, nevertheless, because their social values were Victorian. … ||
As Edith Wharton said, Victorians feared scandal worse than they feared disease. ||
pick one person who symbolized this shift more than any other, he [Phaedrus] would have picked President Woodrow Wilson. … ||
The headmaster sermonized in chapel each morning on Victorian moral themes with the dedication and vigor of Theodore Roosevelt. ||
The explainers of that period were the most lost of all. "Whirl is King," wrote Walter Lippman in his "Preface to Morals". Whirl, chaos seemed to be in control of the times. … ||
Ancient Greeks such as Socrates and Pythagoras paved the way for the fundamental principle behind science: that truth stands independently of social opinion. It is to be determined by direct observation and experiment, not by hearsay. … ||
Or, within historical time, the day Socrates died to establish the independence of intellectual patterns from their social origins. Or the day Descartes decided to start with himself as an ultimate source of reality. … ||
But in 1925 his lawyer, Clarence Darrow was just taking easy shots at a toothless tiger. Only religious fanatics and ignorant Tennessee hillbillies opposed the teaching of Evolution. But when that trial is seen as a conflict of social and intellectual values its meaning emerges. Scopes and Darrow were defending academic freedom but, more importantly, they were prosecuting the old static religious patterns of the past. ||
Ruth Benedict's Patterns of Culture and Margaret Mead's Coming of Age in Samoa ||
Torstein Veblen's famous intellectual attack on Victorian society, "The Theory of The Leisure Class," should be updated with a new one called "The Leisure of The Theory Class." ||
A new social class had arrived: the theory class, which had clearly put itself above the social castes that dominated before its time. The gigantic power of socialism and fascism, which have overwhelmed this century, is explained by a conflict of levels of evolution. This conflict explains the driving force behind Hitler not as an insane search for power but as an all-consuming glorification of social authority and hatred of intellectualism. … ||
Books such as Lady Chatterley's Lover and Tropic of Cancer were defended as great salients in the struggle against social oppression. Prostitution and adultery laws were eased. It was expected that with the new application of reason, sex could be handled much like other commodities without the terrible tensions and frustrations of social repression exposed by Sigmund Freud… ||
Artists and writers of the thirties such as Grant Wood, Thomas Hart Benton, James Farrell, Faulkner, Steinbeck and hundreds of others dug deep into the illiterate roots of white American culture to find the new morality, not understanding that it was this white illiterate American culture that was closest to the values of the Indian.. ||
He remembered seeing The Glass Menagerie, by Tennessee Williams, in which one edge of the stage had an arrow-shaped neon sign flashing on and off, on and off, and beneath the arrow was the word, "PARADISE," ||
This "pursuit of happiness" seemed to have become like the pursuit of some scientifically created, mechanical rabbit that moves ahead at whatever speed it is pursued. If you ever did catch it for a few moments it had a peculiar synthetic, technological taste that made the whole pursuit seem senseless. ||
Without any real awareness of where the new morals were coming from, the whole country was moving in a direction that it felt was right. The new intellectualism looked to the "common people" as a source of cultural values rather than to the old Victorian European models. Artists and writers of the thirties such as Grant Wood, Thomas Hart Benton, James Farrell, Faulkner, Steinbeck and hundreds of others dug deep into the illiterate roots of white American culture to find the new morality, not understanding that it was this white illiterate American culture that was closest to the values of the Indian. The twentieth century intellectuals were claiming scientific sanction for what they were doing, but the changes that were actually taking place in America were changes toward the values of the Indian. ||
Even the language was changing from European to Indian. Victorian language was as ornamental as their wallpaper: full of involutions and curlicues and floral patterns that had no practical function whatsoever, and distracted you from whatever content was there. But the new style of the twentieth century was Indian in its simplicity and directness. Hemingway, Sherwood Anderson, Dos Passos and many others were using a style that in the past would have been thought crude. Now this style was a reincarnation of the directness and honesty of the common man. ||
on the Road, by Jack Kerouac ||
two-volume biography of William James Willian James The Varieties of Religious Experience. ||
Phaedrus had read James' philosophy. Now he wanted to get into some of his biography to put some perspective on it … ||
"I've seen enough of this," Humphrey exclaimed at the disastrous 1968 Democratic convention, "I've seen far too much of it!" But he had no explanation for it and no remedy and neither did anyone else. The great intellectual revolution of the first half of the twentieth century, the dream of a "Great Society" made humane by man's intellect, was killed, hoist on its own petard of freedom from social restraint. ||
New York was: is this city going to survive or isn't it? It's always had social problems, and it's always survived them, and somehow it's always been strengthened by them, and maybe that will happen again. But this time the odds didn't look bright. He remembered the title Rudyard Kipling had used for Calcutta back in Victorian times, "The City of Dreadful Night." That's what this city was becoming. ||
Students aren't expected to philosophize. Their instructors would hardly know what to say if they did. They'd probably compare the student's writing to Mill or Kant or somebody like that, find the student's work grossly inferior, and tell him to abandon it. ||
A review of his book in the Harvard Educational Review had said that his idea of truth was the same as James. The London Times said he [Author Robert Pirsig] was a follower of Aristotle. Psychology Today said he was a follower of Hegel. If everyone was right he had certainly achieved a remarkable synthesis. ||
But the comparison with James interested him [Author Robert Pirsig] most because it looked like there might be something to it. It was also very good philosophological news. James is usually considered a very solid mainstream American philosopher, ||
In addition to the conventional branches of philosophy-ethics, ontology and so on-the Metaphysics of Quality provides a foundation for a new one: the philosophy of insanity. ||
Clifford Geertz stated that the Balinese definition of a madman is someone who, like an American, smiles when there is nothing to smile at. ||
Proust wrote about it in "Remembrance of Things Past." ||
The Tibetan Book of the Dead. Aldous Huxley referred to it as part of the mescaline experience. ||
In El Greco's "Nativity" the Dharmakåya light emanating from the Christ child provides the only illumination there is. El Greco was thought by some to have defective eyesight because he painted this light. But in his portrait of Cardinal Guevara, the prosecutor of the Spanish Inquisition … ||
M. K. Opler found that Irish schizophrenic patients had preoccupations with sin and guilt related to sex. ||
wondering what it would be like to live in one of those little ornamented aft cabins with the tiny windows, staring out like Sir Francis Drake at the surging waves rolling under you. ||
Sometimes, as a result of this monastic retreat into silence and isolation the patient arrives at a state Karl Menninger has described as "better than cured." He is actually in better condition than he was before the insanity started. ||
It said that by following linguistic analysis you could go even farther back into the mythos than Homer. Ancient Greek was not an original language. It was descended from a much earlier one, now called the Proto-Indo-European language. This language has left no fragments but has been derived by scholars from similarities between such languages as Sanskrit, Greek and English which have indicated that these languages were fallouts from a common prehistoric tongue. ||
La Prééminence de la Main Droite by Robert Hertz ||
One of Phædrus' old school texts, written by M. Hiriyanna, contained a good summary: "Rta, which etymologically stands for "course" originally meant "cosmic order," the maintenance of which was the purpose of all the gods; and later it also came to mean "right," so that the gods were conceived as preserving the world not merely from physical disorder but also from moral chaos. ||
Following the period of the Bråhmanas came the Upanisadic period and the flowering of Indian philosophy. Dynamic Quality reemerged within the static patterns of Indian thought. ||
If you look at the lives of some of the great moral figures of history-Christ, Lincoln, Gandhi and others-you'll see that that's what they were really involved in, the cleansing of the world through the absorption of karmic garbage. They didn't pass it on. Their followers sometimes did, but they didn't. ||
He seemed to remember a book he'd always wanted to read called The Masks of God. You could discover a lot about a culture by what it said about its idols. The idols would be an objectification of the culture's innermost values, which were its reality. ||
Then he remembered when he had been walking down a dirt road like this one near Lame Deer, Montana, on the Northern Cheyenne reservation. It was with Dusenberry and John Wooden Leg, the tribe's chief, and a woman named LaVerne Madigan from the Association of American Indians. So long ago. So many things had happened. He would have to get back to the Indians someday. That was where he had started from and that was where he had to get back to. ||



Edited by David M. 28 Sept 2012. RevHSG24-30Nov23. RevHSG2-7Dec23.

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