View North: Cottonwood Canyon Near the DeWeese Homestead.

…."The wind coming down from the snowfields up above sounds for a long time throughout the house. It grows loud and high as if in hope of sweeping the whole house, all of us, away into nothing, ....
.... "I keep listening to the wind," I say. I add, "I think when the Sutherlands have left, Chris and I should do some climbing up to where that wind starts. I think it’s time he got a better look at that land. “

….Speaking To Robert And Gennie DeWeese At The Close Of Next To Last Chapter Of Part II, The Narrator “Listening To The Wind”, For-Sees A Foray Into The Mountains..
….AND as Emphasized In The Previous Album For Photos ZMM Part 2, you should especially think => Master Motif !! => “WIND” & “LISTENING TO THE WIND”

Lower Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin Gateway, MT. For the DeWeese Home, Google Satellite gives 14190 Cottonwood Canyon. Bozeman, MT 59718
….Most of my ZMM Route Sights and Scenes Gallery Photos show a real scene that represent factually what the ZMM Narrator very well may have seen as he and Chris traveled the route so well described in ZMM.
….However, the next ~33 photos are, at best by contrast, only somewhat approximate illustration of the Bozeman Mountain Climb of the Narrator and Chris, and what they might have seen on their hike.
….I have used the Narrators words as clues, along with knowledge of the forest, to construct a reasonable Procedure & Discussion To Make "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail " (N+C ##), Which were then shown on Topographic (Topo) Maps of the Gallatin National Forest to the South East of the DeWeese home.
….With this map in hand I sought photograph vistas, on or somewhat near the (N+C ##). These you will see in this album.
….Please let me know by email what you think about this. => HenryG__USCA.edu

Click here for instructions and link to ZMM Bozeman Mountain Hypothetical Climb Trail Topo Maps, which opens new browser. If you are looking at my Topo Maps in This Album => Plz remember to Click Map Photo several times to get largest version, AND THEN hold CTRL and press the + Plus Key, to Make Topo Map Even larger.

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….AND if you have any other trail suggestions, actual climb experience of these NF Mountains, or any other information please Email => HenryG__USCA.edu
….As you will learn, author Pirsig does not agree with my Hypothetical Trail Choices = (N+C 01 - 08).Continued (N+C 10 Thru 29). After This Link Comes Up => Read My Correspondence With Author Robert Pirsig => Do > Edit > Find > Doesn't Fit …. And Read Close By Paragraphs.

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(Photo = Septenber2006 0103 ...... ZMM Page = 153 ...... Photo At WayPt = 198, which is N+C 01 = 0.20 mi fm DeWeese.)
NOTE Using GoogleEarth’s “Tools”, on a Satellite View, will give the point to point (straight line), travel distance miles. This method gave Miles to each successive WayPt N+C, These added give cumulative #.## miles fm DeWeese , you will see above, and in bottom line of the next ~34 photos.
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ATTENTION: Please be aware that the next ~33 photos are, at best, only somewhat approximate illustration of the Bozeman Mountain Climb of the Narrator and Chris, and what they might have seen on their hike.
...To see ACTUAL PHOTOS taken along the Trail Described by The ZMM Narrator, please Click Upper Right, to go Back the Five ZMMM SubAlbums, And click on =>
...SUPPLEMENTARY PHOTO ALBUM FOR ZMM BOOK PART 3 => CHRIS + NARRATOR MOUNTAIN CLIMB: Amateur Mountain Climber, Joe Pioro, Researched & Photographed => The Most Likely Gallatin National Forest Mountain Route That => Fits The ZMM Book’s Narrator + Chris Climb Narrative.

View Northeast: Cottonwood Canyon Near the DeWeese Homestead.

….“Chris and I should do some climbing up to where that wind starts.“

Lower Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin Gateway, MT Each of (the Next 32) Photos=>
….That Illustrate The "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail ", for each N+C ##) => And thus INCLUDE the respective N+C WayPt Number.
…Please be aware that => This Number is to be associated to the same WayPoint on respective Topo Maps, as discussed the Previous Photo. (NOTE: To Access Topo Maps, Right Click, SECOND Blue Link Below. and Open In New Tab.)

….CAUTION: The NFS Cottonwood Creek Trail marked as ----on my map, follows Cottonwood Creek and thus initially is on private land. At parking lot (N+C 02 on my map), follow trail marked by signs. This stays on NF land.

…. SIDE NOTE: Based on the Narrator's statements, about when their trip took place, would date their Mountain Climb on or around 17 July 1968. Thus a proper set of trail photos illustrating the Narrator's Climb would show a mid-summer's lush green. Many of my 2002 Photos show mid-summer green.
…However, the next 5 (and many of my other photos), were taken 10 September 2006, and show, by contrast, dry-season brown grass and early fall tree colors. This is, of course, due to the rapid change of season in High Mountains and Northern Latitudes.

…I apologize for a) Not being able to visit & photograph this forest at a more realistic time of year. b) And for not yet finding the opportunity to explore and photograph a full trail, as described in ZMM

… Since my trail marked on my "Hypothetical Climbing Trail Map" is as yet only partly verified by Mr Joe Pioro, trail enthusiasts are invited, indeed STRONGLY urged, to volunteer their skill to a field check this map.

Right Click, And Open In A New Browser For =< Instructions And Link To “ZMM Bozeman Mountain Hypothetical Climb Trail” Topo Maps. If you are looking at my Topo Maps in This Album => Plz remember to Click Map Photo several times to get largest version, AND THEN hold CTRL and press the + Plus Key, to Make Topp Map Even larger.

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ATTENTION” Before You Continue To View This Album, You Might FIRST Want To View The More Realistic 63 Photo Album Of =>
…Amateur Mountain Climber, Joe Pioro, Researched & Photographed => The Most Likely Gallatin National Forest Mountain Route That => Fits The ZMM Book’s Narrator + Chris Climb Narrative.
INSTRUCTIONS:
…Click on the Blue Link below, and after the 5 Albums Page comes up Read the description of the THIRD Album =>
…SUPPLEMENTARY PHOTO ALBUM FOR ZMM BOOK PART 3
… Then when ready click on the photo to see the first of four pages of 18 Small Photos. Click Here To Go To 5 Albums Page.
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(Photo = September2006 0100 ...... ZMM Page = 154...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 01cont = 0.20 mi fm DeWeese.)

The Mountain Climb Starts Off Easy, Following A Well-Traveled Level Path =>
Which Is High Up On the Side Of Cottonwood Creek Canyon.
….In /\ Above /\ Photo, You Can See The Path On A Steep Slope, And =>
……You Will Have To Imagine Cottonwood Creek, Is Way Down At Left.

….“Chris and I have had a good night’s sleep and this morning have packed the backpacks carefully, and now have been going up the mountainside for about an hour. .. The forest here at the bottom of the canyon is mostly pine, with a few aspen and broad-leafed shrubs. Steep canyon walls rise way above us on both sides. Occasionally the trail opens into a patch of sunlight and grass that edges the canyon stream, but soon it reenters the deep shade of the pines. The earth of the trail is covered with a soft springy duff of pine needles. It is very quiet here. “

Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT. What was the ZMM Narrator's trail in the mountains after he left the DeWeese Family? On page 173 he says, “Just up above the top of the ridge the snow can be seen now.

….So, where is the Narrator's trail?
….We must use topo maps and ALL the Narrator's clues, even TINY ones, to deduce his trail. Early in Part III, he says that he started at the DeWeese's and followed the stream up a narrow canyon. And he moves directly towards the (closest?) snow, and this snow is visible while they are deep in this narrow canyon. Most likely these are the mountains in the Southeast.
….Indeed, there is a 1.2 mile stretch of Cottonwood Canyon that does point, up canyon, directly at some very high snow peaks (over 10,000 feet) in the Gallatin National Forest, such as Mount Blackmore and Elephant Mountain.
….Given these crucial clues, a ridge fitting the ZMM Narrator’s descriptions is identifiable. Having thus identified a probable "ridge" on the North side of and parallel to Cottonwood Canyon, another connecting ridge that then could lead a climber to snow, may be identified. See link to map previous photo. Continued next.)

NEW TOPIC:
….The Narrator probably used Topographic (Topo) Maps to explore both of these high
country This is very likely, because he tells us on his check-off list “ U. S. Geodetic Survey maps of an area where we hope to do some hiking. “ (See his list of travel and camping gear , Early in ZMM Chapter4, p 036) I infer that these maps were used to plan the Part III climbing route and regularly check their course during that climb. These very maps (or similar), were likely on Pirsig’s desk during the 4 years he planned, and did his writing of, the high country and mountain hiking portions of ZMM. (Continued next)

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(Photo = September2006 0131...... ZMM Page = 167 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 03 = 1.11 mi fm DeWeese.)

Pines, Hardwoods, And Sunlight Along The Trail In Cottonwood Canyon.

…. “Mountains like these and travelers in the mountains and events that happen to them here are found not only in Zen literature but in the tales of every major religion. The allegory of a physical mountain for the spiritual one that stands between each soul and its goal is an easy and natural one to make. Like those in the valley behind us, most people stand in sight of the spiritual mountains all their lives and never enter them, being content to listen to others who have been there and thus avoid the hardships. “

Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT.
….Take Special Note Of The Following Contrasting Mountain Metaphors =>
..A) In the ZMM Narrator's FIRST FORAY into the Mountains after Red Lodge, he goes up into that ”high country” using Paved Roads made by someone else (using Civilization Machinery), and moved with energy supplied by Motorcycle Machinery (ZMM Part II.)
..B) In the ZMM Narrator's SECOND FORAY into Cottonwood Canon, the Narrator goes up into his ”high country” at first following a Civilization Path, prepared by others (ZMM Part III ). However later, he makes and follows his OWN VERY DIFFICULT Routes, AND is moved by his OWN muscle power!
..C) Especially note that, the Narrator does this despite the fact that he can plainly see on his Topo Maps, that there are (no doubt) several well-traveled Gallatin National Forest Trails that would have gained the snow much more easily.

….As Always, All This Metaphorically Ties Into The Narrator's High Country Chautauqua.
..D) In the ZMM Narrator's FIRST FORAY into his high country, he discusses the Civilized Philosophies of OTHERS.
..E) In this SECOND FORAY, the Narrator goes up into he is making his OWN Philosophy, in this case the beginnings of his Metaphysics of Quality =>
…. “. I don’t know how much thought passed before he [Phaedrus] arrived at this, but eventually he saw that Quality couldn’t be independently related with either the subject or the object but could be found only in the relationship of the two with each other. It is the point at which subject and object meet. . “
..C) Unfortunately => And as always, Phaedrus, the Narrator, and even Chris suffer for this independence!!
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(Photo = September2006 0132 ...... ZMM Page = 167 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 03 = 1.11 mi fm DeWeese.)

There Are Many Routes Into the Mountains, Real and Philosophic.

….“Some travel into the mountains accompanied by experienced guides who know the best and least dangerous routes by which they arrive at their destination. Still others, inexperienced and untrusting, attempt to make their own routes. Few of these are successful, but occasionally some, by sheer will and luck and grace, do make it. Once there they become more aware than any of the others that there’s no single or fixed number of routes. There are as many routes as there are individual souls.“

Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT. (Continued fm previous.) As a person reads ZMM => At first the Narrator's climb route’s physical layout, may be a complete mental scramble.
….But as we study a topo map and read and re-read “Chris and Narrator’s “climb” (Chapters 16-21), we can begin to see a route that fits rather well the Narrator’s overall clues
…And as you will see => My "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail" is indeed a route an experienced mountaineer would choose as a reasonable way to climb “to the snow” with an 11 year old boy.

….So, Where Is The Narrator's Trail?
….Early in my search for possible mountain climb routes that fit the Narrator's Trail Descriptions, I studied trails that => Turned left off the main Cottonwood Canyon National Forest Trail where Topo Map shows WayPt = (N+C 05 or 06) =>
….Going up the canyon-side here, would fit these Narrator's: 1) a very steep part, 2) "flat spot/knoll, protruding from the side of the mountain.“, 3) cross over a "ridge", and 4) would fits the next morning's Narrative where " still have a lot of climbing to do“, to reach snow.
….But further study shows such a route as unsatisfactory. For example, these above mentioned (N+C 05 or 06) route would NOT really lead thru a major canyon with a used & visible trail, as is implied by the Narrator. Also this WayPt = (N+C 05 or 06), are some 2.23 or 3.43 miles from DeWeese's and turning up the slope here, would put the Narrator's time for "lunch 1/2 way up" too soon.
….Despite this, you will see on my Topo Map Photos, two alternate climb routes: (N+C 50 to 61) and (N+C 69 to 96). These with important exceptions, are alternates, that have many successful fits to the Narrator's descriptions.
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…. However, For Now Let’s Focus On A “N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail”, That Somewhat Fits The ZMM Narrative. The Following Discussion Applies To This Topo Map, That Is The Topo To Focus On. Right Click and Choose New Tab.
..A) WayPt = N+C 01 to 07 are IN Cottonwood Canyon, going from DeWeese Home to nearly a left turn into a Mountain Side Gulch.
..B) Between WayPt = N+C 07 & 09 you will see a whole series of close WayPoints:
..C) THESE MARK A MEDIUM GOOD =>:N+C Hypothetical Trail”, going up an UN-Named gully, from WayPt = N+C 08 & N+C 71 (hard to read), which is a steep part up to N+C 77 then not so steep to N+C.79
..D) Continue following the series of close WayPoints to WayPt = N+C 80. This marks the climb to a knoll for Narrator & Chris overnight camping.
..F) WayPt = N+C 80.to 88 marks the climb to a Mountain Top, where Chris shouts “Blue Sky”!
..G) WayPt = N+C 88.to 96 mark Narrator’s (frightened rock-slide) climb down to a nearest road in Hyalite Canyon. I have chosen a way that goes through a narrow muddy cut.
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…. However, AN EVEN BETTER => “N+C Hypothetical Trail”, That Has A BEST Fit To The ZMM Narrative. The Following Discussion Applies To This Topo Map, Which Is The One To Now Focus On => Right Click and Choose New Tab, Where Will See => The following Marked Trail =>
..H) WayPt = N+C 01 to 08 are IN Cottonwood Canyon, going from DeWeese Home, to nearly Fox Creek Canyon.
..I) .WayPt = N+C 09 & 10 are further up-stream Cottonwood Canyon, and MARK THE. Continuation of => A “N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail”, into Fox Creek Canyon. This trail leaves Cottonwood Canyon to go East, Then Southeast, to go up, at first close by Fox Creek WayPt = N+C 10 & 11, then gets gradually steeper. Continue very steep to West of the creek, to climb towards WayPt = N+C 12.
..J) WayPt = N+C 12 leads to a nice climb to an adjacent knoll for Narrator & Chris overnight camping.
..K) Continue next day along Fox Creek to WayPt = N+C 14, which marks a steeper climb. Then after (possibly) a zig-zag, the climb turns Southeast going by WayPt = N+C 15. Then climb to a ridge top WayPt = N+C 23 & 24, where Chris shouts “Blue Sky!”
..L) Follow ridge South towards Mount Blackmore, where Google Earth shows patches of snow.
.M) WayPt = N+C 25, 26,27 28, marks Narrator’s (frightened rock-slide) climb down to a nearest paved road, and Trailhead Parking Lot where there would be people for Narrator & Chris to hitch a ride back to Bozeman. This is at WayPt = N+C 29. I have chosen a way that goes through a muddy rut at Blackmore Creek.
..N) Alternatively, after WayPt = N+C 25, a perhaps easier route could be found Northeast to nearest NF Dirt Road.
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…. ATTENTION => All Mountain Climbers, Hiking Clubs, And Boy Scouts, Are Hereby Invited To Help Confirm This => "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail " WayPt = (N+C ##) => Please study the discussed "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail " (N+C ##) given in the previous captions. Then please contact me for what Volunteers Can Help With.

….SAFETY FIRST: Be sure to a) Take your Bear Spray and b) Tell Other People or National Forest Service Where You Are Going, So They Can Come Looking For You, In Case You Do Not Come Back At A Scheduled Time!

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(Photo September2006 0165 ...... ZMM Page = 167 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 04 = 1.68 mi fm DeWeese.)

Trees and Open Grass Are Good Habitats for Partridges.
…."An Exploration Which Phaedrus Saw As The Mountains Of The Spirit."

…. “ I want to talk now about Phædrus’ exploration into the meaning of the term Quality, an exploration which he saw as a route through the mountains of the spirit. As best I can puzzle it out, there were two distinct phases.
…. In the first phase he made no attempt at a rigid, systematic definition of what he was talking about. This was a happy, fulfilling and creative phase. It lasted most of the time he taught at the school back in the valley behind us.
… The second phase emerged as a result of normal intellectual criticism of his lack of definition of what he was talking about. In this phase he made systematic, rigid statements about what Quality is, and worked out an enormous hierarchic structure of thought to support them. He literally had to move heaven and earth to arrive at this systematic understanding and when he was done felt he’d achieved an explanation of existence and our consciousness of it better than any that had existed before.
....If it was truly a new route over the mountain it’s certainly a needed one. [After a page explaining need to repair centuries of "Philosophical Erosion" the Narrator hears a sound.]
…. A whirr sounds and a partridge disappears through the trees. . "Did you see it?" says Chris. .. "Yes," I say back. .. "What was it?" . "A partridge." .. "How do you know?" .. "They rock back and forth like that when they fly," I say. I’m not sure of this but it sounds right. "They stay close to the ground too." .. “ Is the partridge a metaphor for "spirit" ? Or are there other metaphorical connections to “bird” ? As discussed next =>
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Beside Cottonwood Creek, Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT.

DATE-LINE: May 12, 2021. by Henry Gurr.
….MYSTICAL, POSSIBLY SPIRITUAL FORCES, RELATED TO THE NARRATOR’S "A partridge." .
…. From the above, The ZMM Book Enthusiast, reading =>
…. “"They rock back and forth like that when they fly," "They stay close to the ground too." .
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……. Since a Partridge is a Bird, the ZMM reader, should pause to wonder if there are added Metaphorical Connections =>
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..A) Is This Like The Master Motif? => …. “In the distance a single bird cries plaintively.
..B) Or similar to ZMM Chapter 14, in the Bozeman, MT, church yard, . “A transparent-winged bug sets down … by Chris ..." =>
..C) In the case of the above lazy resting bug, flexing wings, (Like other similar MOTIFS), this passage "A partridge" might be taken as a telegram => Foretelling That => Important Momentous Events, in these Mountains, are just ahead!
..E) AND Is This A Foretelling? => Of Soon There Will be = A The Powerful Unforgettable Climatic Series of Philosophic Mountain Climb Events, are about to Happen In this case leading up to Chris shouts =>…..Blue Sky!
..F) Where we will see that the Narrator Concludes =>
…..And at that point, when he wrote that, he knew he had reached some kind of culmination of thought he had been unconsciously striving for over a long period of time.
SUMMARY:
….The above => "A partridge." . might be taken as a telegram =>
…. Foretelling that => Important Momentous Events are just ahead!
Is this such a Telegram? Is This Again, Author Pirsig’s method, to alert the reader => That There Soon Will be => A, Powerful Unforgettable Series of Events, In this case =>
…. ” Now he knew it was coming.
….This means Quality is not just the result of a collision between subject and object. The very existence of subject and object themselves is deduced from the Quality event. The Quality event is the cause of the subjects and objects, which are then mistakenly presumed to be the cause of the Quality!

All This Is Possibly-=> A Fore-Announcing In => Several Innocent Looking Partridge Sentences.
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….If You Are Aware Of Other Similar Examples, Please Send Email To HenryG__USCA.edu

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(Photo = Septenber2006 0144 ...... ZMM Page = 167 to 169 ...... Photo simulate WayPt = N+C 05 = 2.23 mi fm DeWeese.)

The ZMM Narrator Can Now See Mountain Peaks With Snow. =>
….This Is Seen Beyond a Forested Ridge, That He and Chris Will Eventually Cross Over.

…. “Just up above the top of the ridge the snow can be seen now. On foot it’s many days away though. The rocks below it are too steep for a direct hiking climb, particularly with the heavy loads we are carrying, and Chris is way too young for any kind of ropes-and- pitons stuff. We must cross over the forested ridge we are now approaching, enter another canyon, follow it to its end and then come back at an upward angle along to the ridge. Three days hard to the snow. Four days easy. If we don’t show up in nine, DeWeese will start looking for us.“

Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT.
….Here are the clues, so far, as to where the Narrator and Chris have hiked =>
...a) Not far from DeWeese Home: they are in a deep narrow canyon which has very steep sides such that you must look up to see the sky.
..b) They cannot see out the canyon sides, but looking ahead (up canyon) they can see snow, which we learn is 3 to 4 hiking days away.
….NOTE: Although not stated, we may infer that the edge of the snow is their intended goal. My study of Topo Maps, for Gallatin National Forest, shows Mt. Blackmore as one of the better candidates for Summer Snow. This is some 12 miles away, from the DeWeese home depending on route. This calculates as 3 to 4 miles per day
….Considering a typical walking speed is said to be 3-4 miles/hour (and a Trail Hike WebPage says 1.5 miles/hour), we might expect these 12 miles to take 3-4 hours (or 8 hours), and thus wonder why the Narrator allows . Three days hard to the snow. Four days easy.
…. Although 3 or 4 days for 12 miles, may seem way too much time, perhaps it is a reasonable speed for mountains with steep slopes, especially considering that the Narrator and Chris are carrying heavy packs. Both are out of shape, and must stop often for long rests.
….Additional Important Clues:
..c) After two days hiking, they will be relatively near a frequently traveled road.
..d) When they turn into a smaller, less traveled canyon, this turns their route away from their snow goal, requiring a later turning back, and continue upward onto a ridge.
..e) All very important clues, especially the ridge which is well above the smaller canyon at this point.
…. NOTE: Topo Maps, do show in Cottonwood Canyon, ~2 miles from the DeWeese’s => A line of view, directly up-canyon, from where a viewer could see a ridge, in the fore ground, and beyond the ridge would be seen some very high mountains, which would have snow. That this is possible, is confirmed by viewing this in GoogleEarth.

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(Photo = 108-0904+0905sc ...... ZMM Page = 173 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt N+C 05 6140ft = 2.23 mi fm DeWeese.)

The Narrator Plans the Climb So At End of Second Day They Will Be Near a Road.

…. “As DeWeese said, from here straight south you can go seventy-five miles through nothing but forests and snow without ever encountering a road, although there are roads to the east and the west. I’ve arranged it so that if things work out badly at the end of the second day we’ll be near a road that can get us back fast. Chris doesn’t know about this, and it would hurt his YMCA-camp sense of adventure to tell him, but after enough trips into the high country, the YMCA desire for adventure diminishes and the more substantial benefits of cutting down risks appear. This country can be dangerous. You take one bad step in a million, sprain an ankle, and then you find out how far from civilization you really are.“

Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT. Another important clue. A chosen hypothetical trail should end close to a traveled road and by implication the entire climb route was planned never to be too far from roads with some traffic and help. This is another constraint on hypothetical trail decided upon.
….WARNING!! Despite Appearances, The Forest Slopes And Mountain Peaks Are Dangerous!
….Accidents and serious sickness can and do happen! Tell the NFS or your friends where you are going and when you will be back!!!! Quality demands you plan these things ahead. Also do not go alone and have adequate maps and food and water etc.
….The ZMM Pilgrim should well copy the many, many safety techniques of the Narrator, distributed throughout ZMM.

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(Photo = September 2006 0009 ...... ZMM Page = 178 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt 06 or 07 6320ft = 3.43 or 4.01 mi fm DeWeese.)

Where Is the Turn-Off Into the “Seldom-Entered Canyon? “

…. “It’s looking bad for Chris. For a while he was way ahead of me and now he sits under a tree and rests. He doesn’t look at me, and that’s how I know it’s bad. .. I sit down next to him and his expression is distant. His face is flushed and I can see he’s exhausted. We sit and listen to the wind through the pines. .. I know eventually he’ll get up and keep going but he doesn’t know this, and is afraid to face the possibility that his fear creates: that he may not be able to climb the mountain at all. I remember something Phædrus had written about these mountains and tell it to Chris now.“ [Here, Chris hears the story about the moose. This takes his mind off his troubles.]
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Grassy Area Not Far From Cottonwood Creek, Gallatin National Forest, MT
As already mentioned in a previous photo => At first I thought WayPt = N+C 05 or 06, might be where the Narrator turns into the smaller, seldom entered canyon. But this route did not fit the Narrator's overall Story,
….Further study of Topo Maps, showed Fox Creek Canyon is large enough, that it well fits a Climb Trail into "seldom entered canyon". Indeed, Fox Creek Canyon well fits the Narrator’s earlier statement "Just up above the top of the ridge the snow can be seen now. On foot it’s many days away though. The rocks below it are too steep for a direct hiking climb, particularly with the heavy loads we are carrying, and Chris is way too young for any kind of ropes-and- pitons stuff. "
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…..Then the Narrator continues with these very important clues, as to the nature of ridge approach edge =>.] "We must cross over the forested ridge we are now approaching, .... "
….Does he mean their current trail point is on the side of that ridge (albeit they are low near stream) and that there is a later high portion of it, that they will cross over to get to the snow? .... " enter another canyon, follow it to its end and then come back at an upward angle along to the ridge. Three days hard to the snow. Four days easy."
…. Either way, we can seein these statements, specific identifiable parts of their route up! Important clues!! And these points are to be on that ridge, are in a straight line to the snow! Excellent “clues” for field verification!!

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(Photo = September 2006 0145 ...... ZMM Page = 179 ...... WayPt = N+C 08 = 4.59 mi fm DeWeese.)
NOTICE = > N+C 08, is on the Northeast Side, of Upper Cottonwood Canyon, and leads to small ruts leading up an UN-Named Gully. You can see this on my Topo map, showing the “Close Series N+C 71 thru 77 and beyond.

The Narrator Tells Us They Turn Off From the Main Trail, and Enter a Seldom Traveled Canyon.

…. “This is apparently a seldom-entered canyon this far up. After another hour of hiking we see that the trail is about gone. .. “

Junction Where Fox Creek, Flows Into Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT The three trail clues here suggest
..a) The canyon they enter, is not much smaller than the one they have been in. AND
..b) The trail shows less use and that the trail soon disappears.
….I believe these clues mean they enter Fox Creek Canyon, as shown in my "Hypothetical Trail Climbing Map" WayPt = N+C 09 to 29. It is reasonable that this canyon should also have a trail here, because its floor must be fairly level and be large enough to look inviting. Thus we may suppose hikers on the well traveled Cottonwood Trail, might also explore this canyon somewhat and leave a weak trail.
….Also Gallatin National Forest Trail Maps for Cottonwood Trail, shows an official trail, going about a mile up along Fox Creek, until the trail turns West to climb to slope to Fox Creek Meadow. Mouse ClickDrag Map To Follow Along Cottonwood Creek & Trail, Until You See Where The Trail Turn East Into another Canyon.
….In addition I have seen => Trail Maps, that show a main trail in Cottonwood Canyon, which continues all the way to Mt. Blackmore and beyond to Hyalite Canyon Campgrounds and public paved roads. These attractions are a destination and a source of foot traffic traveling both ways on the Cottonwood Trail.
….Clearly this main trail would show much more traffic than the “seldom-entered side canyon“.
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NEW TOPIC: Here the Narrator and Chris will turn-off from the main trail, and start their physically difficult climb to a ridge top, which continues into the next day. Here at this N+C 09 WayPt, my "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail" shows this turn.
….Soon thereafter, they start making their OWN trail. Correspondingly the Narrator here departs from the philosophy of OTHERS and starts his OWN difficult "philosophic climb" to the discovery of true nature of Quality. He makes this philosophic trail as they go.
….In other words => The Physical Trail And Climb, poetically reflects upon a Chautauqua on Phaedrus’ Second Quality Exploration.
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….The Next Photo starts the Narrator’s description of how he and Chris reach the top of the ridge, and eventually the highest they go in their mountain climb.
….Correspondingly, you will see the Narrator’s gradual building to a dramatic Chautauqua climax. For me, one of the highest achievements of the entire ZMM!

All The Above “Italic” ZMM Phrases, Are Important Clues, Really” Signs”, As Understood By People In The Middle Ages.
….You should study the Medieval Theory Of Signs, Logic, And Reason, as portrayed in book "The Name of the Rose," by Umberto Ecco. A great book and a great read!

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(Photo = September 2006 163 ...... ZMM Page = 181 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 09 6600ft = 5.73 mi fm DeWeese.)

The Narrator and Chris Have Entered the Seldom Traveled Canyon
….And Now Angle Up and Away From the Stream, With As Little Effort As Possible.
…….As One Climbs, Each Step Is a Unique Event: This leaf! This Rock! .....

…. “" We walk now away from the stream we were following, up the canyon side at the shallowest angle I can find. .. Mountains should be climbed with as little effort as possible and without desire. The reality of your own nature should determine the speed. If you become restless, speed up. If you become winded, slow down. You climb the mountain in an equilibrium between restlessness and exhaustion. Then, when you’re no longer thinking ahead, each footstep isn’t just a means to an end but a unique event in itself. This leaf has jagged edges. This rock looks loose. From this place the snow is less visible, even though closer. These are things you should notice anyway. To live only for some future goal is shallow. It’s the sides of the mountain which sustain life, not the top. Here’s where things grow. .. But of course, without the top you can’t have any sides. It’s the top that defines the sides. So on we go—we have a long way—no hurry—just one step after the next—with a little Chautauqua for entertainment -- .Mental reflection is so much more interesting than TV it’s a shame more people don’t switch over to it. They probably think what they hear is unimportant but it never is.“

Smaller Side Canyon, Off Of Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT
Trail Location Clue =>: Apparently the Narrator’s route previous to this point, has had a relatively easy slope.

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DATE-LINE: May 17, 2021. by Henry Gurr.
….AN EXPLANATION OF CAPTION EDIT REVISIONS FOR =>THE FOUR PHOTO ALBUMS FOR ZMM BOOK ALL FOUR PARTS.
…. The original work to create the ZMMQ Photo Albums, for ZMM Book All Four Parts, was started early in 2003, with continuing improvements thru September 2010. After this date these Four Albums have remained mostly un change, until mid-December 2020, when “A ZMM Book Photo Gallery Edit Revision & Fix Project” was started.
….Work to “Edit Fix” of ZMM Part !!! Album (which you are looking at right now), started May 7 2021 & will continue for several more weeks from today.
….Up to now, no announcement of this ZMMQ Photo Albums Fix It Project” has been made, because => The Edit Policy, has been “As Much As Possible Preserve What Has Been Posted (Since ~2010), & Fix Only What Needs It.”
…..In the event of Major Revisions, a “DATE-LINE” Explanation is added, similar to what you see hereabouts.
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….AN EXPLANATION OF CAPTION EDIT REVISIONS FOR THE NEXT SEVEN PHOTOS.
….As originally posted (2003 to 2010), this Album’s Photos & Captions were planned around the original trail conclusion that The Narrator and Chris Knoll Suitable For Camping, was at WayPt = N+C 17. This was along the "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail".
….A week ago, however, further study revealed an equally suitable Knoll For Camping, was at WayPt = N+C 12. This location fitting most of the other Narrator Trail Clues, is at 6.75 miles from DeWeese Home. By the time Chris hypothetically would have covered 6.75 miles (some of it very steep), he will be beyond exhaustion. Thus, clearly this N+C 12 knoll has N+C Camping preference, because it is two miles closer than N+C 17.
….Of course this new conclusion, calls for revisions in the specified WayPt = N+C##’s => To preserve mostly, what has been already posted, it was decided Re--Define the following WayPt Series => N+C 10, N+C 10i, N+C 10ii, N+C 11, N+C 11i, N+C 11ii, N+C 12, N+C 1cont1, N+C 12cont2.
….Below you will find an additional “DATE-LINE” EXPLANATION, for revisions in the specified WayPt = N+C 14 thru 24.
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(Photo = September 2006 0150 ...... ZMM Page = 183 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 10 6900ft = 5.95 mi fm DeWeese.)

Steady Climbing Wears On Chris.

…. “I turn to see how Chris is doing. His face looks tired. .. I ask, "How do you feel?" .. "Okay," he says, but his tone is defiant. .. "We can stop anywhere and camp," I say. .. He flashes a fierce look at me, and so I say nothing more. Soon I see he’s working his way around me on the slope. With what must be great effort he pulls ahead. We go on.
. .. Phædrus got this far with his concept of Quality because he deliberately refused to look outside the immediate classroom experience. Cromwell’s statement, "No one ever travels so high as he who knows not where he is going," applied at this point. He didn’t know where he was going. All he knew was that it worked.“

Smaller Side Canyon Off Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT. Clues, so far, as to where the narrator and Chris hike.
..a) The side canyon is steep enough and long enough to badly stress Chris, who is already tired from the long trail in their first canyon.
..b) One thing we should remember is that Bozeman area is already ~a mile higher than Narrator & Chris home in Minneapolis. AND as this climb progresses, it gets higher and higher in altitude. This means thin air and this, in addition to being "out of shape", can add immensely to the fatigue, and out of breath. In fact when Chris and Narrator get to the really steep part (mentioned forthcoming photos), the narrator is taking three breaths per step! Indications of steepness and thin air!
..c) During this time “the snow is less visible“, but this means it’s still possible to see it and watch it as they are moving towards this their intended goal.
..d) The “side canyon” leads them up the ridge, which would then lead up to snow.
..e) Note how all this climbing description “with what must be great effort “, “flashes a fierce look“& “ working his way around“is poetically related to the Narrator’s description of Phaedrus’, long and very difficult search for a satisfactory full meaning of Quality!

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(Photo = Summer 2006 160 ...... ZMM Page = 187 & 188 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 10i ~6900ft = 5.95 +0.2 mi fm DeWeese.)

The Clouds Appearing On the Other Side of the Canyon, Signal Problems With Chris.
….Also Metaphorically Indicates Problems With The Narrator’s Working Out An Understanding of Quality.
….The New Coolness Makes It Easier Hiking AND Easier Discussion of Quality.

…. “"I don’t like this trip," he says. "It isn’t any fun. I thought it was going to be fun." .. Some anger catches me off guard too. "That may be true," I reply, "but it’s a hell of a thing to say." .. I see a sudden flick of fear in his eyes as he gets up.
.... We go on.
.... The sky over the other wall of the canyon has become overcast, and the wind in the pines around us has become cool and ominous.
.... At least the coolness makes it easier hiking -- . .. “

Climbing the side of Fox Creek Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT. (GPS = 45.47608 -111.02714 ) Note how the Narrator's clouds warn us of bad things to come, and this is not necessarily the weather! This keeps the reader in suspense, and is one of the Narrator's techniques to keep the reader alert and engaged!
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…. Click here for Google Maps Satellite Overview of Cottonwood Canyon, Fox Creek Canyon, showing => A Trail Partly Following Fox Creek. Unmarked Center of screen is WayPt = N+C 12.
….AFTER Satellite View Comes Up, ,ClickDtag gradually to South and a bit East, and will See at Right } Hyalite Reservoir, then Hyalite Creek Trailhead. Continued ClickDrag South you will see to center and more left => Mount Blackmore and Elephant Mountain.
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SIDE NOTES:
.….Free Download For A Computer APP You Might Want To Use =>
…..Google Earth Will Show ~SAME Satellite Views (As Above Blue Link), But With Many ADDED VIRTUES !!
….Once GoogleEarth comes up on your computer screen (just like Google Map Satellite View), you can either search or ClickDrag, to find what you are looking for, such as Bozeman MT or A Ridge At Mount Blackmore's West Flank!
.A) An especially nice feature => The GoogleEarth Display somewhat reveals the 3D.View of These Mountains, by manually doing a Clk&Drag of the landscape!
..B) GoogleEarth, is One Of The Best (And Free) GPS Data > Map Display APPS,
..C) AND The Internet Download and Install of this Computer Application, is relatively easy and reliable.
..D) Once GoogleEarth, is installed in a person’s computer, they can Import the GPS Coordinates, from their Handheld GPS Unit.
..E) Once a person’s GPS Coordinates are imported, GoogleEarth does an excellent job of display of these GPS WayPoints, added to the Mountain Terrain View !!
..F) AND there are many other “Tools”, ”Adds”: and “Map Layers” plus => Many other nice features, that you will eventually want and use!
..G) GoogleEarth > “Tools” > “Ruler” > Can give you point to point (straight line) travel distances in miles. This is an especially useful.
…. Here’s What You Have To Do =>
GoogleEarth > Top > “Tools”, where you can select “Ruler”, which in turn allows you to mouse-click-mark two points on your Trail View.
…. With more clicks you get the point to point (straight line), travel distance miles, which are (straight line), shown on your trail map.
….AND you can save successive such “straight lines“ to show a map of a complete Mountain Climb, all of which is added to the (somewhat) 3D.View of These Mountains. Naturally the 3D.View includes the Satellite Image, which shows the trees, rocks, streams, rivers, roads, & towns!
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Henry Gurr’s Steps =>To Learn How I Use GoogleEarth => Right Click & Open In A New Tab.
….Then AFTER this Photo Comes Up => Start reading at …. For Persons Who Which To Know More =>
For the above you must (free) download and installed in your computer
…. Great Views. Try It! It Is Easy, Comes Up Quickly And Is Lots Of Fun!
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.…. Google Maps & Satellite Views, Can ALSO Give You Point To Point Travel Distances In Miles ALONG THE ROAD (But Only On Official Roads). =>
….However Using This Feature, Is Hard To Figure Out, Unless You Have A Working Example!!
….Here’s A Working Example & What You Have To Do =>
Right Click & Open In New Tab. After this Satellite Map Comes up substitute YOUR OWN TWO ADDRESS for those in two lines upper left, then click on Search Symbol. You can then save the map with road shown & distance shown.
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(Photo = September 2006 0050 ...... ZMM Page = 193 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 10ii 6900ft = 5.95+0.4 mi fm DeWeese.)

The Narrator and Chris Work Off Anger & Resentment, As They Move Slowly Upward For the Next Hour.
….They Find What Seems To Be the Last Available Water.

…. “He shows anger, but says nothing, for fear he’ll have to carry the pack again, just frowns and ignores me while I relay the packs upward. I work off the resentment at having to do this by realizing that it isn’t any more work for me, actually, than the other way. It’s more work in terms of reaching the top of the mountain, but that’s only the nominal goal. In terms of the real goal, putting in good minutes, one after the other, it comes out the same; in fact, better. We climb slowly upward and the resentment leaves.
.... For the next hour we move slowly upward, I carrying the packs in relays, to where I locate the beginning trickle of a stream. I send Chris down for water in one of the pans, which he gets. When he comes back he says, "Why are we stopping here? Let’s keep going."
... "This is probably the last stream we’ll see for a long time, Chris, and I’m tired."“

Up the side of Fox Creek Canyon, A Smaller Canyon, Off Of Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT. Several days later Chris has diarrhea. Is this from drinking stream water in these mountains?

….MORE TRAIL CLUES:
..a) An hour more they move up steadily. This implies a continuation of the same grade since near the beginning at Fox Creek.
..b) They find a trickle of a stream small enough such that this is likely the last water. According to the Topo Map's blue color, Fox Creek is a stream here, and even much farther up. This would imply more than just a trickle of water. However, this is a low area, wind sheltered and a South facing slope. Despite the forest, this would promote more rapid drying, thus any water this far up, might have nearly have dried up in the mid-summer when Chris and the Narrator were there.
..c) Alternatively the Narrator may have found a hillside spring & small stream, perhaps some distance from Fox Creek, depending on their route up.
….My "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail ", marked on my Topo Map, assumes the trail goes close by Fox Creek where there might be water, then goes West from the creek, and continue up to towards base of the ridge ahead, climb onto it, & there are close to a knoll for camping.
….This trail assumes Narrator & Chris have climbed the continuing grade somewhat along Fox Creek (or not too far away) this entire climb.
….Determination of the presence (or absence) of Summer time availability of water in Fox Creek and how far up, will have to await an additional trail research.
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(Photo = September 2006 0146 ...... ZMM Page = 197 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 11 ~7200ft = 6.56 mi fm DeWeese.)

After a Long Time, The Climb Suddenly Gets Steeper, Then Changes to Nearly Vertical !

…. “My pack must be about forty or forty-five pounds now, and after we’ve climbed for a while an equilibrium establishes itself at about one breath for each step. .. We come to a rough grade and it changes to two breaths per step. At one bank it goes to four breaths per step. Huge steps, almost vertical, hanging on to roots and branches. I feel stupid because I should have planned my way around this. The aspen staves come in handy now, and Chris takes some interest in the use of his. The packs made you top heavy and the sticks are good insurance against toppling over. You plant one foot, plant the staff, then SWING on it, up, and take three breaths, then plant the next foot, plant the staff and SWING up -- .. “

On Very, Very, Steep Slope On Side Of Smaller Canyon, Off Of Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT. Additional clues as to where the narrator and Chris hiked: We are told that
..a) They continue up, but not long after finding water,
..b) There is a considerable increase in steepness, that quickly changes to near vertical.
…..The route I have indicated on my Hypothetical Climbing Trail Topo Map shows a very steep part from WayPt N+C 11 to N_C 12. Although it is hard to tell from the Topo Map Contour Lines, this could have some very steep parts, perhaps fitting the Narrator’s “near verticle”.

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(Photo = September 2006 0152 ...... ZMM Page = 199 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 11i ~7200ft = 6.56+0.1mi fm DeWeese.)

The Narrator And Chris Have Climbed To Nearly Level To The Opposite Side Of The Canyon.

….“Now that we’re up high on one side of the canyon we can see back and down and across to the other side. It’s as steep there as it is here...a dark mat of greenish-black pines going up to a high ridge. We can measure our progress by sighting against it at what seems like a horizontal angle.
.... That’s all the Quality talk for today, I guess, thank goodness. I don’t mind the Quality, it’s just that all the classical talk about it isn’t Quality. Quality is just the focal point around which a lot of intellectual furniture is getting rearranged. .. “

Just After A Very, Very, Steep Climb Slope, On A Side Of Smaller Canyon, Off Of Upper Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT. Additional clues as to where the narrator and Chris climbed:
..a) Climbing up the “Smaller Seldom Used Canyon”, they can now see level to the top of the larger canyon they left behind. And can see the Larger Canyon has both sites of equal steepness, and height,
..b) And evidently they still are on a continuing very, steep climb slope.
..c) When they look across to the opposite side, there is no snow or it would have been mentioned.
..d) The other side of the larger canyon also has a ridge described as equally high and having “ a dark mat of greenish-black pines“
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These are additional valuable "field checks", to see if the correct route has been found.
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(September 2006 Photo = 0070 ...... ZMM Page = 200...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 11ii ~ 7200ft = 6.56 +0.2 mi fm DeWeese.)

A Climbing Break At a Place Where the View Is Way Down.

…. “We stop for a break and look down below. Chris’s spirits seem to be better now, but I’m afraid it’s the ego thing again.
.... "Look how far we’ve come," he says.
.... "We’ve got a lot farther to go."
.... Later on Chris shouts to hear his echo, and throws rocks down to see where they fall. He’s starting to get almost cocky, so I step up the equilibrium to where I breathe at a good swift rate, about one-and-a-half times our former speed. This sobers him somewhat and we keep on climbing.
.. .. By about three in the afternoon my legs start to get rubbery and it’s time to stop. I’m not in very good shape. If you go on after that rubbery feeling you start to pull muscles and the next day is agony. “

Higher Up From The Very, Very, Steep Climb Slope, On A Side Of Smaller Canyon, of Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT Another rail clue =>. Arriving at the top of the very, very, steep part, would give somewhat of a good cliff, over which to throw rocks and test an echo. This feat accomplishment, might well have prompted a burst of bravado in Chris, hence his behavior.
… This "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail " WyPt N+C 12 well fits the Narrator's above description. And once a final hypothetical trail is chosen, these clues are testable on site..

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(Photo = September 2006 161 ...... ZMM Page = 200 ..... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 12 7080ft = 6.75mi fm DeWeese.)

Mid Afternoon The Narrator and Chris Are Totally Exhausted, and Reach A Knoll Suitable For Camping.

….[ “By about three in the afternoon my legs start to get rubbery and it’s time to stop. I’m not in very good shape. If you go on after that rubbery feeling you start to pull muscles and the next day is agony. “ ]
….“ We come to a flat spot, a large knoll protruding from the side of the mountain. I tell Chris this is it for today. He seems satisfied and cheerful; maybe some progress has been made with him after all.“

A Higher Up Flat Spot, On Side Of A Smaller Canyon Of Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin National Forest, MT. After considerable study of the landscape around my Hypothetical Climbing Trail, my WayPt N+C 12 shows a likely place for the Narrator's “flat spot or knoll protruding from the side of the mountain.“ Consistent to the Narrative, this location is not too far away from the water of upper Fox Creek, supposing it does not dry up mid-Summer.
….Mr. Pirsig's 1968 Photo Of Their Camping Location Shows Dense Forest. This would be compatible with a low area with likely extra water at upper Fox Creek. This is in a portion of the forest far away from logging roads, which in turn, fits the Narrator's very important location clues next morning: “It looks as though the pines have never been cut here. All direct light is shut out from the forest floor and there’s no underbrush at all. Just a springy floor of needles that’s open and spacious and easy hiking.“ You will see how => All this fits Mr. Pirsig's own 1968 photo shown at link below: To View Robert Pirsig's 1968 Photo Of Gallatin National Forest Camping Location => Right Click & Open In New Tab.

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(Photo = September2006 0070cb ...... ZMM Page = 201 ...... Photo Simulate WayPt = N+C 12cont1 7080ft = 6.75 mi fm DeWeese.)