TOPO MAP 1 => N+C HYPOTHETICAL CLIMB TRAIL, COTTONWOOD CANYON, GALLATIN NATIONAL FOREST, BOZEMAN, MT.
….The /\ Above /\ Topo Map Photo (& The NEXT THREE Topo Map Photos) Show "ZMM Narrator + Chris Hypothetical Climb Trails "
….These Are Climb Routes Chosen To Fit The ZMM Narrator’s Mountain Climb Route, In the Gallatin National Forest, South of Bozeman, MT.
….From book “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” ( Chapters 16 thru 21). I (Henry Gurr) have used the Narrator’s words as clues, along with knowledge of the forest, to construct a reasonable mountain route that fits the ZMM Mountain Climb Narrative. Although I believe my climb route, shown on these 4 Topo Maps, well fits the ZMM Book => On-Site Field Research still needs to be done to confirm route choices (or find better fits), and then decide upon a final best version of "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail”.
Please Help In The Search For “A Hypothetical Climb Trail” That Best Fits The ZMM Narrator's Mountain Climbing Narrative.
…..Trail enthusiasts are invited, indeed urged, to volunteer their time and skill to do => On Site Field Checks of trail hypothesis. We can work together! This would be the best way to choose a "Pirsig Pilgrim’s Trail" into the Mountains south of Bozeman, MT
….Trail Enthusiasts who want to do => On-Site-Field Checks should FIRST email me, so I can give full instructions what Research Is Needed and What Equipment Should Be Used. Or If you have any other trail suggestions, or any other information, please communicate: HenryG__USCA.edu … ….Whatever thoughts, ideas, trail observations & trail experience you (and other people) send in, I will post on my WebPage = Blue Link next below. This will be so other Pilgrims may share in Chris and the Narrator’s Mountain Top Victory!
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…. If You Wish To Use A GPS Device (Cell Phone Or Laptop) To Explore My "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail” (Or Other Places Along ZMM Route) , you may request a computer file which will place my N+C WyPt Numbers into your computer or GPS.
… Click Here For Much Information and Maps On My WebPage => “How To Find the Bozeman Mountain Climbing Route Of Chris And The Narrator In ZMM Book.”
….This page shows all the ZMM Narrator's Trail Clues, and has instructions so you may make your own higher resolution Topo Maps of Gallatin National Forest or other places. These free internet maps (as opposed to my maps) are much clearer and have the ability to "Zoom In" for more detail and resolution.
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Just In Case You Missed This Compact Summary => …. ( A General Introduction For These Above Discussed, Four Topo Maps, For "ZMM Narrator & Chris (N+C) Hypothetical Climb Trail”.
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TOPO MAP 2 => N+C HYPOTHETICAL CLIMB TRAIL, MIDDLE PART, COTTONWOOD CANYON, GALLATIN NATIONAL FOREST, BOZEMAN, MT.
….The /\ Above /\ Topo Map Photo (& The PREVIOUS ONE & NEXT TWO Topo Map Photos) Show "ZMM Narrator + Chris Hypothetical Climb Trails "
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[[…. NOTE: -> For your convenience, the following is a NEAR DUPLICATE of Previous Photo. ]]
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…. Climb Routes Chosen To Illustrate The ZMM Narrator’s Mountain Climb Route In the Gallatin National Forest, South of Bozeman, MT.
….From book “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” ( Chapters 16 thru 21). I (Henry Gurr) have used the Narrator’s words as clues, along with knowledge of the forest, to construct a reasonable mountain route that fits the ZMM Mountain Climb Narrative. Although I believe my climb route, shown on these 4 Topo Maps, well fits the ZMM Book => On Site Field Research still needs to be done, to confirm route choices (or find better fits), and then decide upon a final best version of "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail”.
Please Help In The Search For “A Hypothetical Climb Trail” That Best Fits The ZMM Narrator's Mountain Climbing Narrative.
…..Trail enthusiasts are invited, indeed urged, to volunteer their time and skill to do => On Site Field Checks of trail hypothesis. We can work together! This would be the best way to choose a "Pirsig Pilgrim’s Trail" into the Mountains south of Bozeman, MT
….Trail Enthusiasts who want to do On Site Field Checks should FIRST email me, so I can give full instructions, what Research Is Needed, and What Equipment Should Be Used. Or If you have any other trail suggestions, or any other information, please communicate: HenryG__USCA.edu … ….Whatever thoughts, ideas, trail observations & trail experience you (and other people) send in, I will post on my WebPage = Blue Link next below. This will be so other Pilgrims may share in Chris and the Narrator’s Mountain Top Victory!
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…. If You Wish To Use A GPS Device (Cell Phone Or Laptop) To Explore My "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail” (Or Other Places Along ZMM Route) , you may request a computer file which will place my N+C WyPt Numbers into your computer or GPS.
… Click Here For Much Information and Maps On My WebPage => “How To Find the Bozeman Mountain Climbing Route Of Chris And The Narrator In ZMM Book.”
….This page shows all the ZMM Narrator's Trail Clues, and has instructions so you may make your own higher resolution Topo Maps of Gallatin National Forest or other places. These free internet maps (as opposed to my maps) are much clearer and have the ability to "Zoom In" for more detail and resolution.
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Just In Case You Missed This Compact Summary => …. ( A General Introduction For These Above Discussed, Four Topo Maps, For "ZMM Narrator & Chris (N+C) Hypothetical Climb Trail”.
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TOPO MAP 3 => N+C HYPOTHETICAL CLIMB TRAI, Mt BLACKMORE & ELEPHANT MTN PART, TURN OFF FROM COTTONWOOD CANYON, GALLATIN NATIONAL FOREST, BOZEMAN, MT.
….The /\ Above /\ Topo Map Photo (& The PREVIOUS TWO & NEXT ONE Topo Map Photos) Show "ZMM Narrator + Chris Hypothetical Climb Trails "
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…. Climb Routes Chosen To Illustrate The ZMM Narrator’s Mountain Climb Route In the Gallatin National Forest, South of Bozeman, MT.
….From book “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” ( Chapters 16 thru 21). I (Henry Gurr) have used the Narrator’s words as clues, along with knowledge of the forest, to construct a reasonable mountain route that fits the ZMM Mountain Climb Narrative. Although I believe my climb route, shown on these 4 Topo Maps, well fits the ZMM Book => On-Site Field Research, still needs to be done to confirm route choices (or find better fits), and then decide upon a final best version of "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail”.
Please Help In The Search For “A Hypothetical Climb Trail” That Best Fits The ZMM Narrator's Mountain Climbing Narrative.
…..Trail enthusiasts are invited, indeed urged, to volunteer their time and skill to do => On Site Field Checks of trail hypothesis. We can work together! This would be the best way to choose a "Pirsig Pilgrim’s Trail" into the Mountains south of Bozeman, MT
….Trail Enthusiasts who want to do On Site Field Checks should FIRST email me, so I can give full instructions, what Research Is Needed, and What Equipment Should Be Used. Or If you have any other trail suggestions, or any other information, please communicate: HenryG__USCA.edu … ….Whatever thoughts, ideas, trail observations & trail experience you (and other people) send in, I will post on my WebPage = Blue Link next below. This will be so other Pilgrims may share in Chris and the Narrator’s Mountain Top Victory!
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…. If You Wish To Use A GPS Device (Cell Phone Or Laptop) To Explore My "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail” (Or Other Places Along ZMM Route) , you may request a computer file which will place my N+C WyPt Numbers into your computer or GPS.
… Click Here For Much Information and Maps On My WebPage => “How To Find the Bozeman Mountain Climbing Route Of Chris And The Narrator In ZMM Book.”
….This page shows all the ZMM Narrator's Trail Clues, and has instructions so you may make your own higher resolution Topo Maps of Gallatin National Forest or other places. These free internet maps (as opposed to my maps) are much clearer and have the ability to "Zoom In" for more detail and resolution.
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Just In Case You Missed This Compact Summary => …. ( A General Introduction For These Above Discussed, Four Topo Maps, For "ZMM Narrator & Chris (N+C) Hypothetical Climb Trail”.
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TOPO MAP 4 => N+C HYPOTHETICAL CLIMB TRAI, ON RIDGE TOWARD Mt BLACKMORE PART, TURN OFF FROM COTTONWOOD CANYON, GALLATIN NATIONAL FOREST, BOZEMAN, MT.
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-> NOTE => The /\ Above /\ Topo Map Is A “CLOSE-UP”, So You Can See Details Of Contour Lines Of Ridge, (AND Like The PREVIOUS THREE Topo Map Photos) Shows "ZMM Narrator + Chris Hypothetical Climb Trails "
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…. Climb Routes, Chosen To Illustrate The ZMM Narrator’s Mountain Climb Route In the Gallatin National Forest, South of Bozeman, MT.
….From book “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” ( Chapters 16 thru 21). I (Henry Gurr) have used the Narrator’s words as clues, along with knowledge of the forest, to construct a reasonable mountain route that fits the ZMM Mountain Climb Narrative. Although I believe my climb route, shown on these 4 Topo Maps, well fits the ZMM Book => On Site Field Research, still needs to be done to confirm route choices (or find better fits), and then decide upon a final best version of "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail”.
Please Help In The Search For “A Hypothetical Climb Trail” That Best Fits The ZMM Narrator's Mountain Climbing Narrative.
…..Trail enthusiasts are invited, indeed urged, to volunteer their time and skill to do => On Site-Field Checks of trail hypothesis. We can work together! This would be the best way to choose a "Pirsig Pilgrim’s Trail" into the Mountains south of Bozeman, MT
….Trail Enthusiasts who want to do On-Site-Field Checks should FIRST email me, so I can give full instructions, what Research Is Needed, and What Equipment Should Be Used. Or If you have any other trail suggestions, or any other information, please communicate: HenryG__USCA.edu … ….Whatever thoughts, ideas, trail observations & trail experience you (and other people) send in, I will post on my WebPage = Blue Link next below. This will be so other Pilgrims may share in Chris and the Narrator’s Mountain Top Victory!
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…. If You Wish To Use A GPS Device (Cell Phone Or Laptop) To Explore My "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail” (Or Other Places Along ZMM Route) , you may request a computer file which will place my N+C WyPt Numbers into your computer or GPS.
… Click Here For Much Information and Maps On My WebPage => “How To Find the Bozeman Mountain Climbing Route Of Chris And The Narrator In ZMM Book.”
….This page shows all the ZMM Narrator's Trail Clues, and has instructions so you may make your own higher resolution Topo Maps of Gallatin National Forest or other places. These free internet maps (as opposed to my maps) are much clearer and have the ability to "Zoom In" for more detail and resolution.
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Just In Case You Missed This Compact Summary => …. ( A General Introduction For These Above Discussed, Four Topo Maps, For "ZMM Narrator & Chris (N+C) Hypothetical Climb Trail”.
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On ~17 July 1968 Robert Pirsig and Chris Had to Cross A Raging Stream.
….This Photo Shows What It Might Have Looked Like! Southeast View, Upstream.
…. “ We cross the creek using a rope, which we leave behind, …. “
Hyalite Creek At The Lahore Campground, Gallatin National Forest, MT. Note the several trail location clues.
… I wonder if any remnant of the rope (or hardware) is still there?
……By contrast with my 10 Sept photos of this stream, look how green and lush the summer Gallatin Mountains are! Also note how high the water is!!
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Hyalite Creek, Northwest View Downstream, Towards The West.
….The ZMM Narrator & Chris Hitch A Ride To Bozeman On The Hyalite Canyon Road, Which Is Just Discernible Above The White Camp Trailer And At Far Right Above The Grass.
…This Way They Leave Gallatin National Forest.
…. [“ We cross the creek using a rope, which we leave behind, …. “] “ then on the road beyond find some other campers who give us a ride into town.
….In Bozeman it’s dark and late. "
Hyalite Creek Road and Langhor Campground, Gallatin National Forest, MT By contrast with my previous 10 Sept 06 photos of this stream, look how high the water is!! Also note how green and lush the Summer Gallatin Mountains are!
A MOUNTAIN CLIMB AFTERWORD =>
…Metaphoric AND Fundamental Quality Reasons =>
…. WHY The ZMM Narrator & Chris MUST NEVER REACH =>
…….The High & White & Ideal & Purity Of Snow On The Mountain Top Pinnacle!
….To understand this, we must remember the below statements by the Narrator, as he & Chris were on their way down from the Ridge. The Key Reasons Why The Narrator “No Go To The Snow”, are shown (by Henry Gurr), underlined =>
…. “Now we enter the trees again, and the sight of the mountaintop is obscured by their branches and I’m glad.
....I think we’ve gone as far along Phædrus’ path as we want to go in this Chautauqua too. I want to leave his path now. I’ve given him all due credit for what he thought and said and wrote, and now I want to develop on my own some of the ideas he neglected to pursue. The title of this Chautauqua is "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance," not "Zen and the Art of Mountain Climbing," and there are no motorcycles on the tops of mountains, and in my opinion very little Zen. Zen is the "spirit of the valley," not the mountaintop. The only Zen you find on the tops of mountains is the Zen you bring up there. Let’s get out of here.”
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…. “ “Feels good to be going down, doesn’t it?" I say.
....No answer.
....We’re going to have a little fight, I’m afraid.
....You go up the mountaintop and all you’re gonna get is a great big heavy stone tablet handed to you with a bunch of rules on it.
....That’s about what happened to him.
....Thought he was a goddamned Messiah.
....Not me, boy. The hours are way too long, and the pay is way too short. Let’s go. Let’s go . . . .
....Soon I’m clomping down the slope in a kind of two-step idiot gallop . . . ga-dump, ga-dump, ga-dump . . . until I hear Chris holler, "SLOW DOWN!" and see he is a couple of hundred yards back through the trees.
....Perhaps he would have gone in the direction I’m now about to go in if this second wave of crystallization, the metaphysical wave, had finally grounded out where I’ll be grounding it out, that is, in the everyday world. I think metaphysics is good if it improves everyday life; otherwise forget it.
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Heading North Toward Route 10, the Road Out of Town.
….“ The next morning we check out of the hotel feeling refreshed, say goodbye to the DeWeeses, and head north on the open road out of Bozeman. The DeWeeses wanted us to stay, but a peculiar itching to move west and get on with my thoughts has taken over. I want to talk today about a person whom Phædrus never heard of, but whose writings I’ve studied quite extensively in preparation for this Chautauqua. Unlike Phædrus, this man was an international celebrity at thirty-five, a living legend at fifty-eight, whom Bertrand Russell has described as "by general agreement, the most eminent scientific man of his generation." He was an astronomer, a physicist, a mathematician and philosopher all in one. His name was Jules Henri Poincaré.
.... It always seemed incredible to me, and still does, I guess, that Phædrus should have traveled along a line of thought that had never been traveled before. Someone, somewhere, must have thought of all this before, and Phædrus was such a poor scholar it would have been just like him to have duplicated the commonplaces of some famous system of philosophy he hadn’t taken the trouble to look into.“(Cont.next)
Bozeman, MT. To See A View of The Narrator’s Hotel (Hotel Baxter) on Main Street, Downtown Bozeman, MT. Click Here.
….And indeed, to go West from Bozeman in 1968, it would be appropriate to first “ Head North “ on N. 7th Ave, but then after 7th crosses the Rail Road Tracks, it turns to the West to go to Belgrade, MT.
….Many things have changed due to the construction of I-90 in Montana, mostly completed by 1960. I-90 going West from Bozeman, MT either overlaid or skirted the old "ZMM Route” (~US-10), from Bozeman, MT to beyond Butte, MT. (Ditto for the Interstates I-90 going West from Miles City to Bozeman.)
….To experience the old "ZMM Route” West from Bozeman, I recommend that the Pirsig Pilgrim take the frontage roads that may be found along I-90. Out of Bozeman, in many cases, these frontage roads are the actual pavement of the old U.S. Rt 10. To do this from Bozeman, take North 7th Street which eventually angles left into a Frontage Road. This will follow the RR tracks (and parallel to I-90) through the towns of Belgrade, Manhattan, and Logan. After that you will see many frontage roads leading off of I-90 at the interchanges, but most of these are not really a better travel experience, from that of I-90 itself, because they are so close to each other. Consult with local maps to find the best ones.
To Read About Montana Interstate Highway Construction (& Much Discussion Of) How To Find Montana ZMM Routes Near I-90 & I-94,
…. Click Here, and AFTER this Photo Comes Up, Scroll down to => by time of Mr. Pirsig’s Travel.
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Road West From Bozeman.
….The Narrator Takes Up His Discovery of the Most Outstanding Mathematician AND Man of Science Of His Time => Jules Henri Poincaré.
[After the Narrator’s long study in preparation for this Chautauqua:]
…." Eventually I came to Poincaré. Here again there was little duplication “ [of Phaedrus’ ideas] “ but another kind of phenomenon. Phædrus follows a long and tortuous path into the highest abstractions, seems about to come down and then stops. Poincare’ starts with the most basic scientific verities, works up to the same abstractions and then stops. Both trails stop right at each other’s end! There is perfect continuity between them. “
…. [then after ~9 pages on Poincaré’s how to find and know facts, which are our ONLY basis of our reality, the Narrator continues with => ]
….What brought tears of recognition to my eyes was the discovery that these unfinished edges match perfectly in a kind of harmony that both Phædrus and Poincaré talked about, to produce a complete structure of thought capable of uniting the separate languages of Science and Art into one. “
One mile Northwest out of Manhattan, MT.
NEW TOPIC: ZMM ROUTE ROADS AHEAD.
….Back in 1968, the Narrator must have followed Old Rt 10 from Bozeman MT all the way to Missoula MT. Going West after Missoula, there is a stretch of I-90 which has overlaid most of Old Rt 10, except for marginal roads, which can be seen running various places, right along the side of I-90. None of those segments seem to have useful travel roads for the ZMM Traveler.
….In this area of Montana, the Old Rt 10 is now recent day Rt 2. => For the ZMM Route Traveler, the only (Non Interstate) way to go West from Three Forks, MT is Rt 2.
…A) For Google Satellite View Showing Rt 2 From Three Forks, MT To Butte, MT. Click Here.
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Further West, the Narrator’s Old Rt 10-Alt, between Anaconda, MT, and Drummond, MT is now present day Rt 1.
… I speculate that between these towns this was the main route prior to the construction of what became called Rt 10, and after that I-90.
….My 1964 Rand-McNally shows the segment from Drummond, MT to Missoula, MT as Rt-10 and four lanes. Dotted lines indicate imminent construction of I-90. This may have been completed by 1968, forcing (surprise?) the Narrator to follow an Interstate Highway, contrary to his stated policy! Could this stretch of Interstate, be the reason the Narrator does not mention any towns along this Highway, between Hall, MT and Missoula, MT?
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July 2024 Added: …A Satellite View Showing “The Three Forks Of The Missouri River”, Which Are =>
…A) The Gallatin River, Flowing WestNorthWest From Bozeman, MT, Area Lower Right.
…B) The Madson River, Flowing North, Lower Center. And
…B) The Jefferson River, Flowing East, And Then Northeast.
…C) Low & Left Of Center, Where You also See Rt-2 Traveling Northwest, Then Turns Southwest Onto US-287. Please Know That US-287 Is The ZMM Route, Which For Many A Mile Follows The Above-Mentioned Jefferson River.
…D) Continued Above C): Notice # 0480 And # 0482. These Are Locations Of Photos With That Number, Which You Will See In Next Photos.
…Please Study These “The Three Forks Of The Missouri River”, And See That => They Are Forced By Narrow Cut In A Mountain Ridge (See Upper Right ..Trident), To Merge Together, And There Form The Missouri River. Which Then Flows Northeast, Going By Small Town Of Trident, MT, Seen Upper Right.
…The Three River Junction Is Called “Three Forks” , Or “Missouri River Headwatters” , A Name Which Is Repeated THREE Times, Near The RED Pinpoint to Right of Center.
…NOTE1: Your extensively study this /\abpve/\ Satellite View, will help you understand the special locations of the Next Nine Photos.
NOTE2: This /\Abpve/\ Satellite View, has been expanded so you can see important information along the ZMM Route, which in this view is about 10 miles.
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Three Forks, MT.
…In ZMM Chapter 22, The Narrator Takes Up His Chautauqua About =>
" .... an alarmingly deep crisis in the foundations of the exact sciences ... ". As he tells us, that mathematicians had found three contradictory major mathematical geometries, of which only ONE of the THREE ( “Riemann Geometry” ), has fruitful,/practical, application to our world.
…As this Chautauqua ends ...... sure enough ...... exactly on cue ..... the corresponding route of travel arrives at Three Forks of Three Major Rivers plus a Town also named Three Forks, MT..
…. As ZMM Route approaches the town of Three Forks, it crosses several muddy, swampy, channels of the Madison River, before turning South on combined Rt2 & Rt287.
…. As is the case for the Mathematical Geometries, the ZMM Route takes ONE of the THREE River Forks, the Jefferson River, leads the traveler up into rich, fruitful, productive "valleys".
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…. RIGHT Click & Select New Tab => To See The SAME Satellite View As Shown Photo /\Above/\. … AFTER This Satellite View Comes Up, Click At Lower Left, To Zoom-In On Three Forks, MT Town. Lower Center OR Look To Northeast to See The Missouri River Headwaters State Park..
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Friday, July 19, 2024: … We Catch Sight Of The-Gallatin River, After Leaving Bozeman, MT And Traveling I-90 About 4/5 Of The Way To The Town Of Three Forks, MT.
…Here the Gallatin River, is on its way to join the Madson River & Jefferson River, at The Three River Junction Called “Three Forks” , and there, these 3 Rivers, are forced by a narrow cut in a Mountain Ridge, to merge, and there become the Missouri River.
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Friday, July 19, 2024: … A Detour To A First “Tourist Attraction”, NOT Mentioned In ZMM Book. .... However, Because Of Its Importance & Highly Interesting, It Is Shown And Discussed Below.
…(NOTE: To Better Understand The /\Above/\ Panorama Photo, You May Want To Review The “Satellite View Showing ‘The Three Forks Of The Missouri River’, ” Which Is The SECOND Previous In This Gallery.)
…The /\Above/\ Panorama Photo, shows a great place to observe at first hand, the Geography & Topology of the Three Rivers that are forced to join to make Three Forks Of The Missouri River: The above Panorama Photo was taken at the at The Three River Headwaters State Park, which has an Observation Platform, at the North End of essentially a small low mountain positioned (as you see in above Panorama) between two of these Rivers. This small mountain also was a camping spot for The Lewis & Clark Expedition, who called it “Fort Rock”, because it was an elevated, flat, relatively free of trees, easier place to defend, if attacked.
…In above Panorama, at the Left End, in the distance you see, a low area with 5 Electric Power Poles, rhis is a Gap Between The Cliffs, Of A Major Mountain Ridge, that forces these Three Rivers together. (At the Right End of This Panorama, you will see a far more dramatic view of this Gap Between The Cliffs,
…As you scroll to the right, you first see from an elevated height, the Gallatin River, which has come from, the Bozeman, MT area, back East,. About mid Panorama, you see the large grassy area of “Fort Rock”, and see how being largely bare rock, is mostly clear of trees, and being an elevated platform, would make it easier to watch for attack and easier to defend.
…Continued scroll to the right, you see, from an elevated viewing height, the combined Madison & Jefferson Rivers, respectively from the South and West. And with more scrolling, you see the vehicle access, Parting Lot. Continued scroll to the right, you AGAIN see the above mentioned => “Far more dramatic view of this Gap between the Cliffs”, Of A Major Mountain Ridge.
… Click Here, And After This 18 Small Photo Page comes up, scroll down and read the 9th & 10th captions. Then you may click on any “Small Photo, and AFTER photo comes up => Be sure to click on, and read, the several Blue Links given. .
SUGGESTION:
... Bring up the above text on a second viewing screen (for example Cell Phone) and have this text handy as you go to and view the Panorama Photo Full Size.
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…. NEXT PHOTO shows => A Scale Model Of the “Landscape Topology of The Area Of The Three Forks Of The Missouri River”, Showing The “Cut” In The High Mountain Ridge, That Force These Rovers Together! Also with this Next Photo Is => A Link To A Satellite View & A Link To A Topo Map View.
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/\Above/\ Panorama Photos taken July 14, 2024.
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A VERY INTERESTING SCALE MODEL =>
...OF THE TOPOLOGY OF THE THREE FORKS OF THE MISSOURI RIVER.
….At Lower Right => You Can See The “Cut” In The High Mountain Ridge That Forces Channels These Three Rivers Into One Channel!
….To See => A Photo OF This Scale Model, And Its Surrounding Three Rivers Area, Click Here. => The “Three River Headwaters State Park, Three Forks, MT.”
Above Scale Model Is At => The “Three River Headwaters State Park”, Two miles Northeast of Three Forks, MT. As is true for all “Tourist Attractions’ this Park Is UN-mentioned in ZMM.
….And, as discussed in Previous Photo & Illustrated in the /\ Above /\ Photo => ~2.5 Miles Northeast of The town of Three Forks, MT, is where these three rivers are forced together into a narrow, steep-banked “Cut” In The Mountain Ridge, to form the Missouri River which then flows North to Helena, MT..
….The Three Rivers are the Jefferson (from West), the Madison (ffom Southeast) and the Gallatin (from the East).
….Moreover => Three Major Highways travel from the Three Forks Region, each following one of the Three River Valleys upstream.
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AN EXPLANATION OF => AUTHOR POBERT PIRSIG’S ZMM BOOK DISCUSSION At Three Forks
…The ZMM Narrator, After Long Search, Eventually Discovered =>
the most eminent scientific man of his generation …. Jules Henri Poincaré, about whom the ZMM Narrator says => “ When you live in the shadow of insanity, the appearance of another mind that thinks and talks as yours does is something close to a blessed event. Like Robinson Crusoe’s discovery of footprints on the sand. .. “
…. Click Here To Read Full Text of Book =>
…. “ Foundations of Science and …. “ by Julius Henri Poincaré.
….This is the book widely quoted from by ZMM Narrator, in ZMM Chapter 22.
EXPLANATION OF=> "METAPHORIC-BRIDGE-CONNECTIONS” IN ZMM BOOK "=>
….In the ZMM Narrator’s discissions, you find there often Is => A “Bridge” Between The Narrator's Chautauqua (In this case, a Lecture on Three Geometries, and the Travel Narrative (Descriptions of Three Rivers & Three Forks Town).
….Here, Author Robert Pirsig, Metaphorically Connects these THREE Rivers, TO => The fact that to travel West from Three Forks Area, the ZMM Traveler must choose ONE of the THREE Rivers. This is metaphorically significant to the Narrator, because he, like a 3 Geometries Mathematician, must choose to follow ONE of the THREE => In this case, choose the ONE River, the Jefferson River, to go upstream into the rich, fruitful valleys & mountains, to the West.
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To Learn More About Metaphoric Bridge Connections, Right Click & Open In New Tab To Go To => “Why Is Robert Pirsig’s ZMM So VERY VERY VERY Factually Accurate?” AFTER This Page Comes Up. Scroll Down To and Continue Reading At => “Metaphoric Bridge Connection”.
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Also The NEXT PHOTO Has A Whole Lot More Discussion Re “Poetic/Metaphoric Use Of Town Names”.
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NEW TOPIC:
The Previous Panorama Photo Dramatically Showed How => “The Geography & Topology of the Three Rivers that are forced to join to make Three Forks Of The Missouri River”:
…However, Unfortunately, The ZMM Route, Coming From The East, Goes Directly Into Three Forks Town, Without Much Allowing The Pirsig Pilgrim To Actually See These Rivers, Or The Place Where They Actually Flow Together, To Form The Missouri River.
….This Inability To See => Is Because The Land Is An Entirely Flat, Tree & Reed Covered, Swampy, Flood Plain => All The Traveler Can See Of Any River, Is A Few Muddy, Small Channels, Meandering Among The High Reeds.
….The two links below show Maps, of a two mile detour, where the traveler can readily study the arrangement of all three rivers, and fully perceive, where and how the three rivers are forced together by a “cut” in a mountain ridge.
….In each link below, you will see where the resulting Missouri River, a railroad, and several power-lines, are forced parallel and close together, to go through a gorge, cut into the great mountain ridge.
….After either of the maps comes up, you may "zoom-in" or slide the map "sideways" to see more.
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..A) RIGHT Click & Select New Tab To See A Google Satellite View (+Explanation), of the 3 Roads & 3 Rivers & Town of Three Forks, Montana =>, Altogether, a VERY INTERESTING PLACE, JUST JAM PACKED WITH GEOGRAPHY!!
..B) RIGHT Click & Select New Tab To See A Topo Map Of The "Three River Headwaters State Park" AFTER Map Comes Up > Immediately Click Upper Left > ON Symbol For FULL SCREEN. Then=> A) Wait about 30 seconds for the loading of the Topo Map to fill your whole screen, AND B) A lot of annoying advertisements, will be gone. AND C) DO NOT Click on the BIG GREEN START .
….SIDE NOTE: When viewing any of the TopoZone Maps => The URL line at your Browser Top, (often) shows the GPS Coordinate Numbers. By carefully changing these Coordinate Numbers, you can view a Topo Map of some other area
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Ahead Is The North East Edge Of The Town of Three Forks, Montana =>
…As Is the Case Of The Three Mathematical Geometries, =>
…..The Narrator Here (At The Town of Three Forks) Chooses Among
…….The Three Roads (Following Three Respective Rivers), and Thus Follows, =>
………The One Road Along The Jefferson River, Which Goes To Rich, Productive, Fruitful Lands! This Is A (Metaphoric Bridge Connection) To The One Most Productive And Useful Geometry, Namely => The Riemann Geometry, Used in Albert Einstien's The Theory Of Relativity, That Best Describes The World We Live In. “
….“ It had long been sought in vain, he said [Poincaré], to demonstrate the axiom known as Euclid’s fifth postulate and this search was the start of the crisis. Euclid’s postulate of parallels,
….Finally, in the first quarter of the nineteenth century, and almost at the same time, a Hungarian and a Russian—Bolyai and Lobachevski—established irrefutably that a proof of Euclid’s fifth postulate is impossible. …….
….It wasn’t the proof that was alarming. It was its rational byproduct that soon overshadowed it and almost everything else in the field of mathematics. Mathematics, the cornerstone of scientific certainty, was suddenly uncertain. .
….We now had two contradictory visions of unshakable scientific truth, true for all men of all ages, regardless of their individual preferences……..
….This was the basis of the profound crisis that shattered the scientific complacency of the Gilded Age. How do we know which one of these geometries is right? If there is no basis for distinguishing between them, then you have a total mathematics which admits logical contradictions. ……
….And of course once that door was opened one could hardly expect the number of contradictory systems of unshakable scientific truth to be limited to two. A German named Riemann appeared with another unshakable system of geometry which throws overboard not only Euclid’s postulate, but also the first axiom, which states that only one straight line can pass through two points. Again there is no internal contradiction, only an inconsistency with both Lobachevskian and Euclidian geometries.
.. .. According to the Theory of Relativity, Riemann geometry best describes the world we live in.
.... At Three Forks the road cuts into a narrow canyon of whitish-tan rock, past some Lewis and Clark caves. East of Butte we go up a long hard grade, cross the Continental Divide, then go down into a valley. “
In distance is The North East Edge Of the town of Three Forks, MT. In ZMM Chapter 22, the Narrator takes up his Chautauqua about " .... an alarmingly deep crisis in the foundations of the exact sciences ... ". As he tells us, that mathematicians had found three contradictory major mathematical geometries, of which only ONE of the THREE (“ Riemann Geometry “ ), has fruitful,/practical, application to our world.
…As this Chautauqua ends ...... sure enough ...... exactly on cue ..... the corresponding route of travel arrives at the town of Three Forks Montana, located at the joining Three Major Rivers plus a Town also named Three Forks, MT..
…. As ZMM Route approaches the town of Three Forks, it crosses several muddy, swampy, channels of the Madison River, before turning South on combined Rt-2 & Rt-287.
…. As is the case for the Mathematical Geometries, the ZMM Route takes ONE of the THREE forks , the Jefferson River, up into rich, fruitful, productive "valleys".
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…. RIGHT Click & Select New Tab =>To See A Google Satellite View of Southern Montana, Centered On Town of Three Forks, Montana, plus the 3 Roads & 3 Rivers Close By. AFTER This Satellite View Comes Up, Click At Lower Left, To Zoom-In On the Town, AND Look To Northeast to See The Three Rivers At Headwaters State Park.
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Friday, July 19, 2024: … After Leaving Bozeman, MT, David Matos & Henry Gurr (Now No Longer Traveling With Other ZMM Enthusiasts), Follow The ZMM Route, Into The Town of Three Forks, MT.
…Although This “Tourist Attraction” Is NOT Mentioned In ZMM Book, However, Because Of Its Importance, Sacajawea Monument Is Shown & Discussed Here.
…As you can see, the Town’s Center is dominated by this Wonderful Statue Of Sacajawea, Created From Funding Raised By The Three Forks Historical Society, and placed in a Park originally established by The Daughters Of The American Revolution (DAR), in 1914. The original purpose of their Park, was to honor Sacajawea, who rightly became famous as the Native American, who greatly helped the Lewis & Clark Expedition.
… More Information And Good Photos Here =>
City of Three Forks, Discussion Of Their Sacajawea Park. Click Here.
Biographyere.com Has Discission & Photos Sacajawea Monuments Worldwide, Prepared By The Sacagawea
Historical Society. Click Here.
Wikipedia Page About Sacajawea Sculpture In Town Of Three Forks MT. .Click Here.
Wikipedia Page About Sacajawea As A Historical Person. Click Here.
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Friday, July 19, 2024: … A Closer View Of The Sacajawea Monument, In The Town Center Of Three Forks, MT. …Although This “Tourist Attraction” Is NOT Mentioned In ZMM Book, However, Because Of Its Importance, Is Shown Here.
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Friday, July 19, 2024: … An Even Closer View Of The Sacajawea Monument, In The Town Center Of Three Forks, MT. …Although This “Tourist Attraction” Is NOT Mentioned In ZMM Book, However, Because Of Its Importance, Is Shown Here.
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Friday, July 19, 2024: … A CloseUp View Of The Brass Plaque O The Sacajawea Monument, In The Town Center Of Three Forks, MT. …Although This “Tourist Attraction” Is NOT Mentioned In ZMM Book, However, Because Of Its Importance, Is Shown Here.
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July 2024 Added: …A Satellite View Showing The Locations Of =>
…A) The Historically Significant “LaHood Park & Hotel”, Which Is Along Rt-2 In the Jefferson River Valley.
…B) The Historically Significant “Lewis & Clark Caverns”, Which Are Mentioned by The ZMM Narrator, And Are Also Along Rt-2 In the Jefferson River Valley.
NOTE: An extensive study this /\abpve/\ Satellite View, will help you understand the special locations of the Next Nine Photos.
…For Examples, Please Notice The Following Shown In The /\Above/\ Satellite View, =>
…1) At Mid Height Left => The small town of Jefferson Island, MT.
.. .2) Right Of Jefferson Island, MT, and along Rt-2 see=> LaHood Park, where are located TWO Historical Markers, which are extensively discussed with following photos.
…3) At Right Of Center => Lewis & Clark Caverns. …. Look closely to see the Caverns Access Road, coming up from Photo Location Dot at 0498.
…4) To left of 0498, unmarked is located => The Campground For => Lewis & Clark Caverns State Park.
…5) Notice that the somewhat Brown Mountains at left of center, change to Green Irrigated Level Valleys, lower right. AND then, notice and remember that US-287 & Rt-2, run along the edge of this change!! .
…6) Then know that after Three Forks, MT. the ZMM Route follows => US-287, which leads to Rt-2, which continues West, then Northwest, Then North to I-90, where the ZMM Route turns West to travel to Missoula, MT.
…7) NOW, please take time to study the above-mentioned “somewhat Brown Mountains” and see =>
……a) A Semi-Continuous Line Of Mountain Ridges, that runs from Upper Right, to where you see words “Lone Tree”.
……b) Then notice that above and below the above-mentioned “Mountain Ridges” are noticeable “Mountain Patterns” that we all should ponder how all this came to pass.
……c) Now notice the locations of the Jefferson River:=> Start Upper Right at Photo Locations 0480 thru 0485, and follow the at first twisty Jefferson River upstream, through a nearly flat level lowland agriculturally rich valley. to the lower center, and then, up the left side.
……d) And left of lower center, notice how the river, no longer “twisty”, had to deep-cut through a mountain ridge to go North,
……e) And, next notice that the river follows along the South edge of a mountain range, until it AGAIN, the river had to deep-cut through a mountain ridge to go North.
……f) And, next notice essentially another repeat. => The river follows along the South edge of yet another mountain range (Photo Locations 0499 & 0501), until it AGAIN, the river had to deep-cut through a mountain ridge to go North, by Photo Location 0502.
……g) And now finally, next notice essentially another repeat, although a much shorter distance => The river follows a short distance, along the Southwest corner of yet another mountain range (Photo Locations 0499 & 0501), until it AGAIN, the river had to deep-cut through a mountain ridge to go North, by Photo Location 0506. Here is where the most DRAMATIC photos are seen, and the location of the Swallow’s Nests, on the rock wall of a super steep deep cut.
……OK, Hope you enjoyed the Geological & Geography Lesson!!
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