In This Photo, Let’s Visualize It’s Showing =>
….The ZMM Narrator and Chris Talking To Mr. & Mrs. “High-Miler“.

…. “As we leave we see the cross-country man by the cycles with his wife and we say hello. He is from Missouri, and the relaxed look on his wife’s face tells me they’ve been having a good trip.
.... The man asks, "Were you bucking that wind up to Missoula too?"
.... I nod. "It must have been thirty or forty miles an hour."
.... "At least," he says.
.... We talk about camping for a while and they comment on how cold it is. They never dreamed in Missouri it would be this cold in the summer, even in the mountains. They’ve had to buy clothes and blankets.
.... "It shouldn’t be too cold tonight," I say. "We’re only at about five thousand feet."
.... Chris says, "We’re going to camp just down the road."
.... "At one of the campsites?"
…. "No, just somewhere off the road," I say.
.... They show no inclination of wanting to join us, so after a pause …. “(Cont.Next)

Lolo Pass, MT & ID Border. My Rand-McNally Road Atlas gives the elevation at Lolo Pass is 5,233 ft, which somewhat agrees with my GPS seen at WayPt below.
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…DATE-LINE: June 21, 2021: By Henry Gurr.

Why Do The Previous Four Photos, And The Next Four Photos Have So Very Much Information About This Area Of Idaho Called “The Lolo Trail Corridor”?

EXPLANATION
….I believe it is important for the ZMM Reader (you) => A) Should fully know the History, Sights, & Scenes, of the territory passed through, on the ZMM Route. AND B) Should learn as much as time allows about such territory.
….So, as you read ZMM, or Travel The ZMM Route => You should become familiar with where are the surrounding Historical Events & Landmarks relative to present day highways & forest roads, and relative to what the ZMM Narrator says. AND thus be able to look (with full understanding) at Satellite Views & Topographic (Topo) Maps.
….The Area Southwest of Lolo Pass, known as the ”Lolo Corridor”, has many interesting & important Historical Events & Landmarks. But these are both complex & distributed over a large area.
….THUS, I believe it is important to help your learning, by providing So Very Much Information About This Area, AND organizing it for easiest comprehension.


.BOTTOM LINE: ALL THIS INFORMATION IS TO HELP YOU =>
….UNDERSTAND THE LANDSCAPE AND THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
………PLEASE TAKE TIME TO STUDY AND ENJOY!!
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Down, Down, We Go!

….“ …. I press the starter button and we wave off.” (Cont.Next)

Lolo Pass, MT & ID Border.
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JUST IN CASE YOU WANT TO **NOW** TRY IT => This Google Street View (GSV) OFFERS “A DO-IT-YOUR-OWN-SELF” => PREVIEW OF THE **SECOND** NEXT PHOTO => RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT “NEW TAB”
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This GSV Gives A 360 Degree Full Circle Panorama, AND Can In Addition =>
…A) Look Farther, Higher AND Lower, On The Scene, Plus
…B) Offers The Ability To Zoom, Magnify, And See Better, Distant Details!!
INSTRUCTIONS =>
…After This Google Street View (GSV) Comes Up => Click the Google Street View Image, WHERE you want the “VIEW” To go. => Thus you can Successively Click-Click-Click and “GSV Drive” along the ZMM Route road, that you see on your computer screen. You may “GSV Drive”, either up to the winter-snowy TOP at Lolo Pass, OR down this canyon, which also happens to be “An Oh WOW! High ZMM Quality Experience Motor Cycle Ride”!!!
...AND you can “Click&Drag” the Image on screen in any direction, for a better view.

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Remember: Click On Photo Several Times To Get Largest View.
.....*** THIS GOOGLE STREET VIEW SHOWS AS FOLLOWS *** =>
..A) A Bit Left Of Center Is => The Valley Scene Over The Lochsa River:
….((NOTE1: In the Strip Map at GSV bottom, you can discern => A) The Lochsa River and B) The Lewis & Clark’s “Rocky Point”, AND also C) Forest Road 109 which will lead the traveler to Road 500, which is the “Lolo Moterway”. D) And finally at far right, you see US-12, which here is the ZMM Route. E) The \Red PinPoint of course marks the camera location of the seen /\ Above /\ Google Street View, which also happens to be Henry Gurr’s 2002 WayPoint 264. ))
….(( NOTE2: On the very long Forest Road 500 (which is the Lolo Motorway, that was built along the existing Native American’s traditional Lolo Trail), which in turn, is where you can re-trace Lewis & Clark’s Torturous, Treacherous Sept 16, 1806 Journey Trail. This is where they Experienced Stormy, Snow Packed, Cold Conditions FAR WORSE than the cold, gloomy scene, with deep snow, you see in the /\ Above /\ Nov 2015 Google Street View!! ))

..B) At Top Center & To Right Of The /\ Above /\ Mentioned Lochsa Valley Scene, Partly Obscured, Is The Crest Of The Mountains, Along Which Runs The Rightly Famous & VERY Historical “Lolo Trail” (The Next Photo Shows A Better View Of This Crest, there called “The Highest Ridge:.)
..C) Low In The \ Above /\ Photo, You See Four Signs Respectively Describing Local Natural Idaho Scenery & History =>
…..1) The Two Signs At Lower Left, Discuss With Photos, How forest landscapes are altered by fire. A close-up of these signs is shown in The SECOND & THIRD Next Photo, where you can fully read what it says.
…..2) The Third Sign Numbered 334, discusses the June 29, 1806 Lewis & Clark “Lolo Trail Crossing”, which historically happened at this 4 sign location. A close-up of this sign is shown in The FOURTH Next Photo, where you can fully read what it says.
…..3) At Lower Right is the Fourth Sign, which was placed by the USDA National Forest Service, and discusses. as it says On Sign’s Top => “Checkerboard Legacy”, and further discusses what is shown in the Map that is seen on the Sign’s Lower Right. Overall, this sign discusses The History Of National Forest Area Around The Sign.
…A close-up of this sign is shown in The FIFTH Next Photo, where you can fully read what it says.
…(Cont.Next)

NOTE: The /\Above/\ Google Street View Photo, shows the Winter Scenery of Nov 2913.
… Click Here For A Google Street View Of This WayPoint 264 Location with Fall Scenery of Oct 2025. :

The /\Above/\ Google Street View Photo Is Located At => Henry Gurr’s 2002 WayPoint 264, Three miles West, after top of Lolo Pass At MT & ID Border. (GPS = 46.5953 -114.60013)
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A MORE EXTENSIVE INTRODUCTION TO THE TOPICS OF THESE ABOVE-MENTIONED FOUR SIGNS: (NOTE: Each Blue Link below has Photos & Maps)
….1) This Area Of Idaho Is Called “The Lolo Trail Corridor”.
The Lolo Trail Corridor: This Rugged Mountainous Landscape, Is Just North of The ZMM Route (Which Here Is US-12), And Is Deeply Loaded With Many Histori8cal Points of Interest Re a) Early Native Americans.(Nez Perce) and b) Lewis & Clark Expedition.
….2) Our Adventure Traveling “The Lolo Motorway”, Which Mostly Follows The “Lolo Trail”, Which Is Also Close To The Travel Route Followed By Lewis & Clark.
….All This May Be Experienced By Driving => “The Lolo Motorway” => Where You Will See A Part Of The Important & Historic Lolo Trail Lolo Motorway Portion Of Our Loop Trip Through Idaho Wilderness. By Terry And Simone Kincaid, August 2-August 4, 2014. AFTER This Page Comes Up => You Can Read Discussion (Plus Many Good Photos & Map), Of What It Is Like To Drive “The Lolo Motorway”. Also given is how they accessed this road.
….3) A National Forest Service Summary & Explanation of => The Lewis and Clark Expedition Along => The “Lolo Trail” & The “Lolo Motorway”: Travel Excerpts From L&C Dairy / Journal, A Somewhat Day By Day Report, Across The Lolo Trail, In September 1805 And June 1806. AFTER this page comes up you can read about => The [historical] sites [that] are listed and numbered east to west, as you will find them, on your travels across the Lolo Trail and the Lewis and Clark route along the Lolo Motorway. (Sites are numbered on the map [given]. Also given are very specific instructions as to how to access this road, from either the East or West ends. )
….4) … Click Here For A Google Satellite View Showing The “Lolo Motor Way”.AND, This Page at Left, Has 9 Good Photos Of What Is Seen Along This Route.
5) ….To Learn More About The Lewis & Clark Expedition, Read A VERY Interesting Day By Day, Summary Synopsis Sketch, Of Their Journey, with Excerpts From L&C Journal Writing, Supplemented With Images Of Maps Sketched by Lewis or Clark. AFTER this page comes up, you will read that L&C are asking Native Americans how to “reach his relations”, meaning go into the high mountains of what we know as Eastern Idaho.
…NOTES ON => HOW TO BEST USE THIS /\ABOVE/\ LEWIS & CLARK EXPEDITION PAGE =>
…a) Three Inches down, at Left in Box With (curved ends) … Click To Go To The Previous Day AND
…b) Three Inches down, at Right in Box With (curved ends) … Click To Go To The Following Next Day.
…b) At Top => The URL line has 18050910 which means 1805 September 10.
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This Photo Taken From Nearly Same Camera Location As Previous Google Street View, But Rotated Right ~45 degrees.
….It Shows A Summer View Similarly Of, The Highest Ridge Running Along The Horizon, Which Marks the Historic Lolo Trail, Well Used By Nez Perce Native Americans, And By Lewis & Clark.
….NOTE The closer mountain top to right of center, is NOT to be confused with The Prominent Mountain Lookout called by Lewis & Clark “Rocky Point”, which from here is located ~2.5 miles a bit North Of West. The Local History Sign, NEXT PHOTO, might lead the reader to wrongly believe, that the /\ Above /\ seen closer mountain top is “Rocky Point”.

….“On the road the shadows of the mountain trees are long now. ” (Cont.Next)

Three miles after top of Lolo Pass At MT & ID Border. (GPS = 46.5953 -114.60013)
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……WHY This Area Of Idaho Is Called “The Lolo Trail Corridor”.
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NOTE1: Please Remember => The Local History Sign, shown in 11th Previous Photo. This sign was back where US-12 Turned West From US-93.
NOTE2: This Sign Was Introducing => “The Historic Lolo Trail”, the location of which happens to be seen in The /\ Above Photo, and is marked by => The Highest Ridge Running Along The Horizon. The below is COPIED FROM THAT SIGN and very well explains => WHY this area of Idaho Is called => “The Lolo Trail Corridor”.=>
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…… “The Lolo Trail was different from other East – West 18th Century Trails. It did not witness a flood of cross-country migration. There were no covered wagons here.

….”Unmapped and shifting over time, it penetrated much formidable terrain that it was only made passible only by those that had travelled it before, with a knowledge passed down from generation to generation. Long before it became an explorer’s route, it was an American Indian trail. Lewis and Clark would have been lost here without the aid of these Indian guides. On June 27, 1806, William Clark described these mountains as:

…. “ … Stupendous principally covered with snow like that on which we stood; we are entirely serounded with them it would have Seemed impossible to have escaped … “

….”The Bitterroot Mountains were the most difficult part of a trail [any trail or road] that connected the plains of the Columbia River with those of the Missouri. Its unyielding topography and dense timber stubbornly resisted “improvement” for wheeled vehicles until the 1960’s. And try as they did. Railroads were never able to penetrate the mountains to the west. U.S. Highway 12 roughly parallels the Lolo Trail, which is mostly above you, atop the ridges and saddles, North or South of the highway. “
….”Except for changes in the vegetation, the Lolo Trail looks much like it did hundreds of years ago. Watch for other interpretive signs that will tell you more of the story. If you do, you’ll understand why Congress chose to preserve the settings as the Nee Moo Poo National Historic Trail and the Lewis and Clark National Historic Trail, which together make up the Lolo Trail.”
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….The FOLLOWING 3 Photos Will Help You FURTHER UNDERSTAND The Sights & Scenes AND The Historical Importance Of The Lolo Trail Corridor.

…FIRST Next Photo:
…… =>The Third Local History Sign At WayPt = 264k, which describes the mountains seen in the distance of /\ Above /\ Photo. (This was the Third Sign Shown & Mentioned in the Google Street View, of previous photo.)
…SECOND Next Photo:
…….A Specially Annotated Topographic (Topo) Map, intended to help you know the Location of (& Explain) => What various WebPages and various Local History Signs Happen To Describe.
…THIRD Next Photo:
…… The ZMM Narrator’s Logging Road For Camping. Plus An Explanation Of =>.A Rather Special National Forest Dirt Road, Known As the “Lolo Motor Way”,
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Saturday, July 20, 2024 …. Landscape Borne Of Fire!!
…The First Of Four Roadside Signs, Which Are Shown In The Previous Photo Of A Google Street View, And The 4 Signs Happen To Be At Henry Gurr’s 2002 WayPoint 264.

Google AI Overview For => Idaho Landscape Formed By Fire =>
…Wildfires have been a natural and essential ecological force in Idaho for millennia, fundamentally shaping its diverse landscapes, which include everything from dense coniferous forests to expansive sagebrush steppes

How Fires Formed Idaho's Landscape.
…Fires play a crucial role in maintaining the health and biodiversity of Idaho's ecosystems. In northern Idaho, they clear underbrush, create openings for sunlight, and aid the reproduction of fire-adapted species like lodgepole pine. In southern Idaho's sagebrush steppe, fires prevent the dominance of woody plants and invasive species, allowing native grasses and wildflowers to thrive and supporting the region's biodiversity. Fires can also impact the physical landscape by contributing to erosion and altering river environments. Historically, varied fire patterns have created a mosaic of forest communities across the state, with the oldest forests typically found in areas that have burned less frequently.

Significant Historical Events.
…One of the most notable events was The Great Fire of 1910, which burned over 3 million acres and significantly influenced the development of fire suppression policies in the 20th century. Additionally, for thousands of years, Indigenous peoples in Idaho used fire as a tool for landscape management.

Modern Management and Future.
…While historical fire suppression policies altered natural fire regimes, modern management increasingly utilizes fire for forest health and restoration. Initiatives like the Southwest Idaho Wildfire Crisis Landscape Project employ prescribed burns and fuel reduction to enhance forest resilience and mitigate the risk of large, catastrophic wildfires. You can find more information about fire-resilient landscaping and the role of fire in local ecosystems through resources like Idaho Firewise.


… Click Here For The Complete Googe Seach Results For => Idaho Landscape Formed By Fire
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Saturday, July 20, 2024 …. What Makes Big Fires?
…The Second Of Four Roadside Signs, Which Are Shown In The Previous Photo Of A Google Street ViewHenry Gurr’s 2002 WayPoint 264.

The Big Burn: Exploring the Great Fire of 1910 in Idaho and Montana.
…1910 Wildfires That Ravaged the American Northwest and Shaped the Forest Service

…As summer began, it was evident that trouble was smoldering in the Bitterroot Mountains of Idaho’s panhandle. The driest year in memory, the winter’s snowpack had melted early, and life-sustaining spring rains never fell. By August, what should have been swift-running rivers cascading down the northern Rocky Mountains were ghosts of their former selves, and many smaller creeks had simply ceased to exist, vanishing into the parched earth below. By late summer, some 9,000 firefighters were already at work trying to tamp out fires flaring up across millions of acres of kiln-dry forest. The Great Fire of 1910 was nigh.

… Click Here For The Complete WebPage = The Big Fire of 1910..
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NOTE: Starting at this “What Makes Big Fires” Sign, and traveling about 18 miles further West on US-12, the traveler will find => Colgate Lick Rest Area, Lochsa River Canyon, ID.
… In 1968, Robert Pirsig stopped here, and in his ZMM Book he says => Later the trees become scarce and spindly, with large areas of grass and underbrush between them. …... A display describes a fire burn that took place here years ago. According to the information the forest is filling in again but it will be years before it returns to its former condition.”
…And yes indeed, a sign there says => “A Huge Forest Fire Burned Off This Whole Area “In The Late 1950’s”, And Because This Area Of Idaho Is Always So Dry, The Forest Has Yet To Grow Back, Despite The Fire Was So Many Years Ago!

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June 30, 2002 And Saturday, July 20, 2024 …. Landscape Borne Of Fire!!
…The Third Of Four Roadside Signs, Which Are Shown In The Previous Photo Of A Google Street View, And The 4 Signs Happen To Be At Henry Gurr’s 2002 WayPoint 264.

Remember To Click Several Times For Largest View: Then You Can Clearly Read => This Sign’s Describing the Local History, of The Mountains & Ridge Seen In The Distance Of The Fourth PREVIOUS Photo.
….SIDE NOTE: Apparently, This LARGE Number 344, Serves To Identify At Long Distance, What Sign This Is In Idaho Literature. This Could Help Persons In Vehicles Who Have Idaho Travel Literature, Keyed To That Number.

WayPoint 264. Three miles after top of Lolo Pass At MT & ID Border. (GPS = 46.5953 -114.60013)
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NEW TOPIC =>
….The Three Linked Satellite Views Given BELOW, Will Help You To FURTHER Understand & Know The Present Day Highways & Forest Roads Of => ….Approximately Same Territory As The Specially Trail Dotted Red Marked TopoZone Map, You Saw ELEVEN PREVIOUS Photos.
…… Each Satellite View, Shows Forest Roads & Important Landmarks, West & South Of Lolo Pass, Known As ”Lolo Corridor”.
..A) Satellite View, Where The Red Pinpoint Marks What Has Been Named For Unstated Reasons, As “Indian Post Office” (7036 feet), The Highest Of The Lewis & Clark Expedition. “The Corps passed the “Indian Post Office” location on September 16, 1805, and camped near it on night of June 27, 1806”. This is West-Southwest of Lolo Pass.
…NOTE1: AFTER above Blue Link comes up => At Upper Left of the Google Map, Click To Expand Side Panel => Then At lower right, Click on the Photo => To See Seven Very Nice Photos, At or around the “Indian Post Office” area. In the Larger Photos that come up, click on the > or < to go to the next Photo.
…NOTE2: To learn more, you might Google => The above passage in “quotes”, for finding an entire interesting page, about the “Indian Post Office”.
…NOTE3: The Satellite Views B) & C) below, also include location of the “Indian Post Office”.
…NOTE4: For more Information and Photos => Also see and read (in text ABOVE), Items 2) & 3) which are under => AN INTRODUCTION, WITH PHOTOS & MAPS.

..B) Satellite View Of Numbered Forest Roads West-South of Lolo Pass. …. Also seen Is “Rocky Point”, a prominent landmark, especially for Lewis & Clark Expedition: This was possibly a side trip for them to eventually go up to a very high lookout-point, for them to better survey the landscape for their (future & past) trail progress. Also be sure to note Massive Relatively Treeless Mountain Ridge, Lower Left Of This View.
….Red Pinpoint Marks “Powell Junction”, which is a waypoint, along the dirt forest road known as “The Lolo Motorway” => See Next Below For More Information. .

..C) .This Satellite View Fits & Adds To Above B), By Explicitly Showing The ~119 Mile Rough, Rocky Bottom-Scraping, Dirt Single Lane Forest Road, Known As the “Lolo Motor Way”.
VIEWING INSTRUCTIONS =>
….1) AFTER this Satellite View comes up, zoom-in on the Red Pinpoint, until you read words “Lolo Motor Way” (many places on the road itself), AND 500 in white rectangles.
….2) NEXT => ClickDrag Map trending to East-North East => To see words successively => Sherman Pass, Bald Mountain, Bald Mountain Creek, 12 Mile Saddle, Castle Butte Outlook, Moccasin Peak, Indian Post Office**, Spring Mountain**, North is Cayuse Junction, Powell Junction, Rocky Point**, Junction with 107 in White Rectangles, which leads South, where it connects with US-12. (Persons who want to drive these roads, may need to use a GPS. )
…3) Trending West-Southwest you will see successively => Sherman Saddle**, Willow Ridge, Bowl Butte, Green Saddle, Weltas Meadow Campground**, Campground, Rocky Ridge, Canyon Junction, and apparent end of the “Lolo Motor Way”,
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ALSO SEE ELEVENTH PREVIOUS PHOTO OF => Topographical Map For ADDITIONAL Explanation Of =>
….The National Forest Dirt Road, Known As the “Lolo Motor Way”.

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June 30, 2002 And Saturday, July 20, 2024 ….Checkerboard Legacy.
…The Fourth Of Four Roadside Signs, Which Are Shown In The Previous Photo Of A Google Street View, And The 4 Signs Happen To Be At Henry Gurr’s 2002 WayPoint 264.

Remember To Click Several Times For Largest View: Then You Can Clearly Read What This Sign Says

WayPoint 264. Three miles after top of Lolo Pass At MT & ID Border. (GPS = 46.5953 -114.60013)
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This Sign Posted By USDA National Forest Service, At Top Says “Checkerboard Legacy”, and Discusses The History Of The National Forest, That Is Shown In Map Seen Lower Right.
….This “Checkerboard Legacy”, Is About The History Of The National Forest All Around This Sign.

EXPLANATION:
…Back in ~2004, The existence of this “Checkerboard Legacy” Sign, became known to me, while I was looking for the presence any buildings along this stretch of road:
….I was doing a Google Street View “Drive”, click, click, down from Lolo Pass.
……AND the /\Above/\ Photo shows Sign I saw here at my WayPt =264, also the 3 Signs seen in the PREVIOUS THREE Photos.
….But because GSV was not clear enough, just what the sign said was a mystery, until by pure accident, I found the Above /\ Photo posted, as an extra, on a Google Satellite View for Lochsa Lodge, which included ~300 photos added by interested persons.
….You will see two more of these ~300 photos in forthcoming photos.
… . As Mentioned Above =? Click Here For A Satellite View Of Lochsa Lodge Buildings & Driveways. AND AFTER This Satellite View Comes Up, Click Upper Left For Over ~300 Photos Of Lochsa Lodge Resort AND Local Scenery
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This Dirt Road Is The Most Likely Candidate for The Narrator’s Logging Road.

…. [ “On the road the shadows of the mountain trees are long now. After five or ten miles we see some logging road turnoffs and head up.” ]
….“The logging road is sandy, so I keep in low gear with feet out to prevent a spill. We see side roads off the main logging road but I stay on the main one until after about a mile we come to some bulldozers. That means they’re still logging here. We turn back and head up one of the side roads. After about half a mile we come to a tree fallen across the road. That’s good. That means this road has been abandoned.” (Cont.Next)

The First Logging Road Turnoff, Lochsa River Canyon, ID. Starting at Lolo Pass, the highway down was a bulldozed flat area grade, on an exceedingly steep mountainside, hence no practical places for a logging road. Thus, after driving down from top of Lolo Pass, this was the first available turnoff I found. It was a right turn and was pretty well at the bottom of the steep US-12 grade from Lolo Pass. I vaguely remember that the stream was close to the road at left.
… Here two different logging roads diverged from, both agreeing with the Narrator’s “dirt road.” Also this road is very sandy agreeing with the Narrators “dirt road.“

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NEW TOPIC: An Expanded Explanation of “The Lolo Motorway”, Which Has Been Mentioned In Previous Photos.
…The National Forest Road, known as “The Lolo Motorway”, was created in 1935 by the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC). Most of this work was done upon => “A previous 1866 Widening Of The Lolo Trail, and Currently Can Be Traveled By Smaller Back-Country Vehicles.”
…NOTE: The 1935 Name “Motorway” does NOT mean the same as might be expected by today’s paved highway standards..
…On a Satellite View such as discussed above => This “The Lolo Motorway” is marked as 500 in White Rectangle, as seen in the below Blue Link, which is a repeat from a Previous Photo) => This Satellite View Explicitly Shows The ~119 Mile Rough, Rocky Bottom-Scraping, Dirt, Single Lane, Forest Road, Known As the “Lolo Motorway”.
VIEWING INSTRUCTIONS =>
….1) AFTER this Satellite View comes up, zoom-in on the Red Pinpoint, until you read words “Lolo Motorway” (many places on the road itself), AND see 500 in White Rectangles.
….2) NEXT => ClickDrag Map trending East-North East => To see words successively => Sherman Pass, Bald Mountain, Bald Mountain Creek, 12 Mile Saddle, Castle Butte Outlook, Moccasin Peak, Indian Post Office**, Spring Mountain**, North is Cayuse Junction, Powell Junction, Rocky Point**, Junction with 107 In A White Rectangle, which leads South, where Connects with US-12. (Persons who want to drive these roads, may need to use a GPS. )
…3) Trending West-South-West you will see successively => Sherman Saddle**, Willow Ridge, Bowl Butte, Green Saddle, Weltas Meadow Campground**, Campground, Rocky Ridge, Canyon Junction, And Apparent End Of “Lolo Motorway”
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NOW Because =>
….A) This Road Offers Views of What Lewis & Clark Expedition Experienced, and Passes Many Prominent Landmarks (Especially For L & C, such as (3 inches below) marked by **.) And
….B) Since this road travels much of The Historical Native American Lolo Trail and otherwise similar landscape,
….C) Thus a person wanting “The Lolo Trail Experience”, might therefore try this road.
….D) We can be relatively certain that “The Lolo Motorway”, follows on (or close to for the most part) the Original Road by Native American Nimiipuu Tribes (the Nez Perce Tribes), from the Lolo Region.to Buffalo Country. This Trail, now also designated ”The Nee Mee Poo National Historic Trail”, remains accurately known, because, through all the centuries, it was functional and thus would be used and reused, continuously keeping it physically stamped on the landscape, and marked in living memory, generation to generation, of where it was exactly located, for use again.

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Although This Is Clearly a Logging Road, It May Or May Not ,Have Been the Narrator’s.

…[.“The logging road is sandy, so I keep in low gear with feet out to prevent a spill. We see side roads off the main logging road but I stay on the main one until after about a mile we come to some bulldozers. That means they’re still logging here. We turn back and head up one of the side roads. After about half a mile we come to a tree fallen across the road. That’s good. That means this road has been abandoned.“ ] (Cont.Next)

Alternate Dirt Logging Road, Forested Mountains, Lochsa River Canyon, ID. Starting at Lolo Pass, this was the second available turnoff I found. But as shown /\ Above /\ Photo, this logging road has logs, a view of the highway, and looks less like what the Narrator calls “dirt road.” For these reasons, this is less likely to be the Narrator’s choice. ..
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….*** (Interesting Added Information About Lewis & Clark.)***

…. “Nearly All The Men Sick!” Lewis and Clark Meet [And Eat] The Camas Root. By Frances Hunter July 26, 2011.
….But when The Lewis & Clark Corps stumbled half-starved from the Rocky Mountains and onto the Weippe Prairie in September 1805, they were ready to eat anything. It was then that the Nez Perce introduced them to a new Native American staple: the camas root. Click Here To Read This Very Good Article, With 5 Good Photos Of Camas. For Suggesting This Article, thanks go to David J Matos, Our ZMMQ Facebook Creator, Who Knows Lots About Lewis & Clark!

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This Photo Can Serve to Illustrate the Narrator’s View, Since all the Mountains In This Area Look About the Same.

….“I say, "This is it" to Chris, and he gets off. We’re on a slope that allows us to see over unbroken forest for miles.
.... Chris is all for exploring, but I’m so tired I just want to rest. "You go by yourself," I say.
... "No, you come along."
.... "I’m really tired, Chris. In the morning we’ll explore."
.... I untie the packs and spread the sleeping bags out on the ground. Chris goes off. I stretch out, and the tiredness fills my arms and legs. Silent, beautiful forest . .
.... In time Chris returns, and says he has diarrhea.
.. . "Oh," I say, and get up. "Do you have to change underwear?"
.... "Yes." He looks sheepish.
.... "Well, they’re in the pack by the front of the cycle. Change and get a bar of soap from the saddlebag and we’ll go down to the stream and wash the old underwear out." He’s embarrassed by the whole thing and now is glad to take orders.” (Cont.Next)

Dirt Logging Road, Forested Mountains, Lochsa River Canyon, ID. Why does the Narrator always “press on down the road”, until so exhausted all he wants is “just want to rest”. ?
….AND Why does the Narrator ALWAYS THEN use his exhaustion to again not do what Chris wants, despite Chris repeated requests!

….In ZMM, There is no answer to just why this happens this way. We can suppose that Author Robert Pirsig wants us (as readers), to see this kind of dysfunctional Father – Son dynamic can happen in anyone’s life: Suggesting how this kind of problem may continue unsolved, but perhaps persons involved can finally realize how to find a way out.
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ZMM Research Examination => The Father & Son Relationship Closely Examined.
…. Click Here To Read => ZMM Research: The ZMM Narrator’s Treatment Of Chris, Both Good & Bad. … A Work In Progress, Yet To Be Completed.

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To See Robert Pirsig’ Original 1968 Photo Of Their Idaho Logging Road Campsite, Which Shows The Next Morning, With Chris Still Sleeping.
Right Click & Open New Tab, THEN Scroll Down To SECOND Album, Read Description, And Click on Photo For Small Photos. Click Any To View. The “Logging Road" Photo Is On Page <2> of Album That Comes Up. … After Viewing Pirsig Photo, Click Browser Back Arrow, Upper Left, To Return Here.
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The Way Down To The ZMM Narrator’s “Stream”.
…A South View From US-12 Toward The Lochsa River Is Shown In /\ Above /\ Photo.

….“The downward slope of the road makes our feet flop as we head toward the stream. Chris shows me some stones he’s collected while I’ve been sleeping. The pine smell of the forest is rich here. It’s turning cool and the sun is very low. The silence and the fatigue and the sinking of the sun depress me a little, but I keep it to myself."

Getting Down Near Lochsa River, Forested Mountains, Lochsa River Canyon, ID. But where is the “stream” the Narrator mentions after earlier saying =>

.“The logging road is sandy, ….We see side roads off the main logging road but I stay on the main one until after about a mile we come to some bulldozers. That means they’re still logging here. We turn back and head up one of the side roads. After about half a mile we come to a tree fallen across the road..“

…In looking at the TopoZone Map along US-12 down from Lolo Pass, there are not hardly any small streams marked near logging roads.
….So, from the above passage we can conclude it’s likely that Chris & Narrator walked South about 1.5 mile down to US-12, cross this highway and went beyond a bit more, to the Lochsa River. Thus, this is a best fit I can see, to reach the Narrator’s “stream”.

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Dense Douglas Fir Idaho Forest As Seen From US-12 Along the Lochsa River.

….In Chapter 23, the Narrator is having a bad nightmare, which concludes with =>

“ …. There must he some kind of mistake. Doesn’t he see that they need me? I plead with the figure that I have to speak to them. It’s not finished yet. I have to tell them things. But the figure in the shadows makes no sign he has even heard. .. "CHRIS! " I shout through the door. "I’LL SEE YOU!!"
.... The dark figure moves toward me threateningly, but I hear Chris’s voice, "Where? " faint and distant. He heard me! And the dark figure, enraged, draws a curtain over the door.
.... Not the mountain, I think. The mountain is gone. "AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN!! " I shout.
.... And now I am standing in the deserted ruins of a city all alone. The ruins are all around me endlessly in every direction and I must walk them alone.”

….Thus ends Chapter 23 …. in a scene of Complete Ruin ….Totally alone, helpless, & hopeless!

Dirt Logging Road, Forested Mountains, Lochsa River Canyon, ID.
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…Associated with the Narrator’s ever increasing daytime fatigue and depression, his terrible dreams increasingly, terrifyingly, haunt his nights.

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Mountains Along the Lochsa River.

….The opening of Chapter 24:
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“ .. The sun is up.
.... For a while I’m not sure where I am.
.... We’re on a road in a forest somewhere.
.... Bad dream. That glass door again.”
... The chrome of the cycle gleams beside me and then I see the pines and then Idaho comes to mind.
.... The door and the shadowy figure beside it were just imaginary.
... We’re on a logging road, that’s right . .
.. . bright day . . . sparkling air. Wow! . . . it’s beautiful. We’re headed for the ocean.
.... I remember the dream again and the words "I’ll see you at the bottom of the ocean" and wonder about them. But pines and sunlight are stronger than any dream and the wondering goes away. Good old reality. .. ” (Cont.next)

…Dirt Logging Road, Forested Mountains, Lochsa River Canyon, ID. Many places in ZMM the Narrator depends on the “grounding” of everyday experience, to hold steady his grip on mental stability. Here this is seen in his explicit statement “Good old reality ”.
…In fact, as is said in the passage above, the Narrator uses the “reality” of bright sun illuminated forest to literally “dis-spell” the lingering dream, and get back to “Good old reality .”

.... Much later in ZMM, on page 318 in Chapter 28, as the Narrator & Chris leave Oregon and travel in Northern California, The beauty of the surrounding countryside gives the Narrator a Tremendous Boost. … From this the Narrator also discusses his clinging dependence on, and comfort from, “reality” =>
…. “The road twists and banks and curlecues and descends and we and the cycle smoothly roll with it, following it in a separate grace of our own, almost touching the waxen leaves of shrubs and overhanging boughs of trees. The firs and rocks of the higher country are behind us now and around us are soft hills and vines and purple and red flowers, fragrance mixed with woodsmoke up from the distant fog along the valley floor and from beyond that, unseen—a vague scent of ocean. .
…. .How can I love all this so much and be insane? . . . I don’t believe it! “

…Although expressed in different words, here again we also see the Narrator’s need for support from essentially “Good old reality.“

….We deduce that the Narrator’s full glorious participation in the beautiful coastal country ahead comes from the positive effects of his remembering Phaedrus’s Quality discoveries. From this, he is certain he is not insane! But, according to the Narrator => We, to the contrary, are in the “real gripping insanity” that comes from our 20th Century Mythos, wrongly understood as presently used in Western Culture.
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Another place in ZMM where the Narrator seeks grounding is this =>
…… “Eventually I came to Poincaré. Here again there was little duplication but another kind of phenomenon. Phædrus follows a long and tortuous path into the highest abstractions, seems about to come down and then stops. Poincaré starts with the most basic scientific verities, works up to the same abstractions and then stops. Both trails stop right at each other’s end! There is perfect continuity between them. When you live in the shadow of insanity, the appearance of another mind that thinks and talks as yours does is something close to a blessed event. Like Robinson Crusoe’s discovery of footprints on the sand.” .
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….I believe the Narrator’s dependence on the “grounding” of everyday experience,. Is one of the reasons that the Narrator’s Travel Narrative Descriptions are so fantastically accurate. As Author Robert Pirsig says, to help the reader believe his Chautauquas, his book must seem real, and to do this he makes the descriptions absolutely real & factual. This stance also fits the real world of necessity, for both the mechanic and the scientist: This is because =>
….Total factual accuracy is absolutely necessary, to make sure nature has not fooled you. As The Narrator says => “The real purpose of scientific method is to make sure Nature hasn’t misled you into thinking you know something you don’t actually know.”
(Topic of “Reality” Is Continued Next)
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A “Good, Good, Good, Good” Morning For Jogging.

…. “I get out of the sleeping bag. It’s cold and I get dressed quickly. Chris is asleep. I walk around him, climb over a fallen treetrunk and walk up the logging road. To warm myself I speed up to a jog and move up the road briskly. .. Good, good, good, good, good. The word keeps time with the jogging. Some birds fly up from the shadowy hill into the sunlight and I watch them until they’re out of sight. Good, good, good, good, good. Crunchy gravel on the road. Good, good. Bright yellow sand in the sun. Good, good, good. .. These roads go on for miles sometimes. Good, good, good. Eventually I reach a point where I’m really winded. The road is higher now and I can see for miles over the forest. .. Good.” (Cont.Next)

Dirt Logging Road, Forested Mountains, Lochsa River Canyon. ID. This whole passage emphasizes Quality of being alive => “ Good, good, good, good, good.” And implies essentially that the Narrator's continuous mental stability, depends on “Good old reality. ”
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….If fact, as said in the passage above (AND the passage in the Previous Photo), The Narrator uses the “reality” of the => … speed up to a jog and move up the road briskly in the bright, cheerful, sun illuminated forest, to literally “dis-spell” any lingering dream.
….Yes, indeed => “Good old reality. .”
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…DATE-LINE: June 24, 2021 by Henry Gurr.

EXAMINING MORE CLOSELY THE ZMM NARRATOR’S => “Good Old Reality. ” ….
….Somehow, from my many readings of ZMM, I got the idea that the phrase “Good old reality .” (or its equivalent), occurred many times in ZMM. So, in process of writing the captions (above and previous photo), I decided to find how many more by > ZMM Full Text > Edit > Find > reality I was surprised to see ONLY the one “Good old reality .”, which is in the ZMM passage given, in second previous photo.
EXPLANATION
….But in the process of the above > Edit > Find … I found 83 “reality” words … and for each of which, I took time to study what Author Robert Pirsig said in the surrounding paragraphs.

In Doing This, I Realized Three AHA Insights =>
…A) One of the Many Major Topic Threads in ZMM, is Robert Pirsig covering a tremendous range of Philosophical Subjects, and in the process is explaining an understanding of just what “reality” IS for us, how we experience “reality”, how do we tell “reality” from dreams, and how we actually know what “reality” actually IS !!
…NOTE: Of course our knowing just what “reality” IS, comes into our mental awareness, through the mental action of Robert Pirsig’s Quality!
….B) AND THEN I realized => I should suggest that you (Dear ZMM Enthusiast) should do as I did, so you can also see & appreciate These Reality Related Major Threads in ZMM !!
….C) AND THEN I realized => This Whole “Reality” Topic is important enough to have Its own ZMMQ Page which can be Googled for OR Right Click =>

Click Here For Author Robert Pirsig’s Major Thread Topic “Quality, Reality, & “Good Old Reality,” as is written into Robert Pirsig’s book “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance”.

.OF COURSE, ALL THIS “REALITY” INFORMATION IS TO HELP YOU =>
….UNDERSTAND A MAJOR TOPIC THREAD IN THE ZMM BOOK.
………PLEASE TAKE TIME TO STUDY AND ENJOY.

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….SIDE NOTE => In the above ZMM Passage, we should especially notice “ Some birds fly up from the shadowy hill into the sunlight and I watch them until they’re out of sight.” As has been discussed in previous photos, here again, we should notice several ZMM BOOK MASTER MOTIFS =>
… a) “birds”
…b) “fly”,
…c) “from shadows into light”, and
…d) “watch till goes out of sight.”

..These above MASTER MOTIFS, are further examples, as has been discussed previously in these album captions: And, as has been stated previously => This is Author Robert Pirsig’s way of telling us (Metaphorical Telegraph), what has been happening to the Narrator’s communication with Chris.
…For example => “It comes up” “from the shadows into sunlight”, but then, “goes out of sight”, after nothing constructive has happen!

.Now WHY Should Author Robert Pirsig Write Into ZMM => The Narrator’s Inability To Communicate With Chris, Is A Major Thread In ZMM Book. ?
…This is written into ZMM, probably because this is what happened in real life between Robert Pirsig & Chris.
...But ALSO, Author Pirsig wants us as readers, to know that he knows< that this is wrong, and chooses these Master Motif ways to tell us this.
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The Narrator Takes Time to Notice His Surroundings.

….“Still puffing, I walk back down at a brisk pace, crunching more gently now, noticing small plants and shrubs where the pines have been logged.
.... At the cycle again I pack gently and quickly. By now I’m so familiar with how everything goes together it’s almost done without thought. Finally I need Chris’s sleeping bag. I roll him a little, and tell him, "Great day!"
.... He looks around, disoriented. He gets out of the sleeping bag and, while I pack it, gets dressed without really knowing what he does. .. "Put your sweater and jacket on," I say. "It’s going to be a chilly ride."
.... He does and gets on and in low gear we follow the logging road down to where it meets the blacktop again. Before we start on it I take one last look back up. Nice. A nice spot.” (Cont.Next)

Dirt Logging Road, Forested Mountains, Lochsa River Canyon, ID. We should notice the ZMM Narrator saying above => ”... noticing small plants and shrubs … not too rough, tell him, "Great day!" … Nice. A nice spot.” and realize this Travel Narrative is preparing the reader for the VERY good mood of next several pages of the Narrator’s => “ Long Chautauqua today. One that I’ve been looking forward to during the whole trip ” !!

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After Packing, Chris and the Narrator Start Down the Winding Road.
…“Beautiful Sunlight On These Forests..“

….“From here the blacktop winds down and down.
.... Long Chautauqua today. One that I’ve been looking forward to during the whole trip.
.... Second gear and then third. Not too fast on these curves. Beautiful sunlight on these forests. .. There has been a haze, a backup problem in this Chautauqua so far; I talked about caring the first day and then realized I couldn’t say anything meaningful about caring until its inverse side, Quality, is understood. I think it’s important now to tie care to Quality by pointing out that care and Quality are internal and external aspects of the same thing. A person who sees Quality and feels it as he works is a person who cares. A person who cares about what he sees and does is a person who’s bound to have some characteristics of Quality.“

Lochsa River Canyon, ID. We should notice The ZMM Narrator saying above “... Not too fast on these curves ” [because we must care in order to see the]. “ Beautiful sunlight on these forests. ”… And in this we realize that => The ZMM Narrator, as is case in the previous photo, is continuing to prepare the reader for the good mood of next several pages of the Narrator’s => “ Long Chautauqua today. One that I’ve been looking forward to during the whole trip. ”

…Moreover, we should additionally realize that => The ZMM Narrator here wants the reader to be in a good mood, because that by metaphorical transfer describes => “A person who sees Quality and feels it as he works is a person who cares. A person who cares about what he sees and does is a person who’s bound to have some characteristics of Quality.“
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Huge Douglas Fir Trees At DeVoto Memorial Grove Are Truly Amazing!
....AND The Fact That These Stupendous Trees Are SAVED From The Lumberjack & The Logging Industry, Is An Act Or Quality, By A Devoted Group Of Naturalists!!

….“But now we have with us some concepts that greatly alter the whole understanding of things. Quality is the Buddha. Quality is scientific reality. Quality is the goal of Art. It remains to work these concepts into a practical, down-to-earth context, and for this there is nothing more practical or down-to-earth than what I have been talking about all along — the repair of an old motorcycle.
.... This road keeps on winding down through this canyon. Early morning patches of sun are around us everywhere. The cycle hums through the cold air and mountain pines .... ” (Cont.Next)

US-12 Along Lochsa River Canyon, ID. And again, in the ZMM Passage above we realize that => The ZMM Narrator, as is case in the previous two photos, is in his last sentence above, continuing to prepare the reader for the good mood of next several pages of the Narrator’s => “ Long Chautauqua today. One that I’ve been looking forward to during the whole trip. ”


… Right Click & Select New Tab. AFTER This Google Satellite View Comes Up, You Can See Where The “DeVoto Memorial Grove” Is, In Relation To “Lochsa Lodge” and Other Points of Interest.
Also after this Satellite View comes up ->
…A) To find Lochsa Lodge, where Narrator & Chris had Breakfast, Mouse Hover Red PinPoint to the left of “White Sand Campground.
…B) To see the “Indian Post Office” at left, collapse the left photo panel. It may take some adjusting of the Satellite View to see what you want.
…C) In the Search Box, you may have to type the name of what you want to see.
…D) Expand the photo viewer, and you will be able to see ~100 photos of (or near to) this Grove. Although the Photos mention Cedar Trees, the really big trees with shaggy bark, must be Douglas Fir Trees.

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