Chris And The Narrator Must Struggle Their Way Down Through Dense Underbrush!

….“ I don’t suppose that sounds like the old days to Chris either. I spook very easily these days, and am not ashamed to admit it. He [Phaedrus} never spooked at anything. Never. That’s the difference between us. That’s why I’m alive and he’s not. If he’s up there, some psychic entity, some ghost, some Doppelgänger waiting up there for us in God knows what fashion . . . well, he’s going to have to wait a long time. A very long time.
…..These damned heights get eerie after a while. I want to go down, way down; far, far down.
….To the ocean. That sounds right. Where the waves roll in slowly and there’s always a roar and you can’t fall anywhere. You’re already there.
…. Now we enter the trees again, and the sight of the mountaintop is obscured by their branches and I’m glad. ”

…[skip over seven pages where Narrator says now finished with Phaedrus high level ideal ideas, and starts on his own development of low level, down-to-earth Quality. ]

“ …. From here on it looks like a slow descent. This slope has evidently been logged and there’s a lot of underbrush higher than our heads that makes it slow going. We’ll have to work our way around it.“

On The Way Down To Hyalite Creek, Gallatin National Forest, MT. Note several more trail location clues.
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The ZMM Narrator And Chris Continue On An Extremely Difficult Way Down.

….“We’re on steep mucky soil now that’s hard to keep a footing in. We grab branches and shrubs to steady ourselves. I take a step, then figure where my next step will be, then take this step, then look again. Soon the brush becomes so thick I see we will have to hack through it. I sit down while Chris gets the machete from the pack on my back. He hands it to me, then, hacking and chopping, I head into the brush. It’s slow going. Two or three branches must be cut for every step. It may go on like this for a long time. For the remainder of the afternoon we climb down over grey weathered trunks of deadfalls and angle back and forth on the steep slope.“

Moving Down Mucky Soil In Heavy Underbrush, On The Way Towards Hyalite Creek, Gallatin National Forest, MT. Note several additional trail location clues.

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DATE-LINE: May 19, 2021. by Henry Gurr.
…REMEMBERING THAT => THERE ARE NO USELESS WASTED WORDS IN ZMM, WHAT ARE WE TO MAKE OF
….SO MUCH DISCUSSION OF THE NARRATOR AND CHRIS’, EXTREMELY DIFFICULT WAY DOWN?
.. Of course, this is good story-telling, and even might have actually happened. But in addition, this could be taken as a Metaphoric Bridge Connection & Telegram telling us =>
.. It Is A Difficult, Mucky, Tangled Underbrush Job => To Come Down From Phaedrus’ high-level IDEAL ideas, AND start his OWN development of low-level, DOWN-TO-EARTH, Quality.

….For example:
“It’s in the area of Science that I want to focus attention in the immediate future, for this is the area that most badly needs the relationship established. The dictum that Science and its offspring, technology, are "value free," that is, "quality free," has got to go. It’s that "value freedom" that underlines the death-force effect to which attention was brought early in the Chautauqua. Tomorrow I intend to start on that.”
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The Narrator Reaches A Cliff and Moves Along It, In Search Of A Way Down.
….Then they “Hear The Roar Of A Much Larger Creek In The Distance.”

….“We reach a cliff, angle along its edge in search of a way down, and eventually a narrow draw appears which we’re able to descend. It continues down through a rocky crevice in which there is a little rivulet. Shrubs and rocks and muck and roots of huge trees watered by the rivulet fill the crevice. Then we cross … ”

In A Rocky Crevice, Just Above Hyalite Creek, Gallatin National Forest, MT. Note many location clues as to where this route should be. For example, the ZMM Narrator says they reach a cliff and it is bad enough that they must move along it in search of a way down.
….Although the previous WayPtsN+C, I have shown on my "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail" map, fit very well to the ZMM Narrative, the “route up”, by contrast, the route from the Crest of the Narrator’s Ridge to Hyalite Creek, offers many very different reasonable routes down to the nearest road. Thus, there may be "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trails", that better fit the ZMM Climb Narrative, than the one I have shown.
….As previously mentioned: A complete field study is needed, to determine a good route, from WayPt N+C 26, to N+C 29, and then decide the final "N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail”, from on-on-site field study.
….An inexperienced person, not having a topo map, might well stumble onto a cliff, like the Narrator’s. There are plenty over this way. But the Narrator, even in his emotional condition, should have been able to avoid such a disaster! Even better, prior route planning for less difficult routs, should bave been done.
…But of course, it is more likely that Author Robert Pirsig, adds these gruesome mucky details, to beef up the sheer climbing difficulty, when he adds to his narrative, this => “We reach a cliff, angle along its edge in search of a way down, … Shrubs and rocks and muck and roots of huge trees watered by the rivulet fill the crevice. ”
….My Hypothetical Climbing Trail Map (discussed in these photos), essentially shows a bumbling idiot's way down. And includes a rugged cliff, that is close enough to a major mountain stream, to hear its roar. This is of course upper Hyalite Creek.
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The ZMM Narrator & Chris Have Finally Found Their Way Down Into Hyalite Canyon, And Then Search For A Way To Cross Hyalite Creek.

….“We cross the creek using a rope, which we leave behind, …. “

Upper Hyalite Creek, Gallatin National Forest, MT.
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…WHERE & HOW TO SEE MORE PHOTOS & DISCUSSION OF =>
……COTTONWOOD CANYON TRAIL, IN GALLATIN NATIONAL FOREST, MT. (Which Have Been Mentioned On Previous Phots.)

1) A Video Showing The Road To The DeWeese Home, In The Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin Gateway, MT.
…Mr.. Dennis Davis shot the footage by mounting a Quadcopter Drone on the roof of his car, with the camera pointed forward.
… A second part of this video shows Cottonwood Canyon Trail views, similar to the first part of Amateur Mountain Climber Joe Pioro’s Mountain Climb Photos, as you saw at the first of this Photo Album.
Click Here To See This 4 Minute Video By Dennis Davis Of Pirsig's Journey.
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2) Seven More Photos Of The DeWeese Homestead, As Well As, Ten More Photos Of Four ZMM Enthusiasts, Who Hiked ~2 Miles On The Cottonwood Canyon Trail, Gallatin National Forest, Aug 2, 2019.
Right Click & Open In New Tab, to view a series of photos of => a) DeWeese Home, then b) ZMM Enthusiasts Hike ~2 Miles On Gallatin National Forest Trail Into Cottonwood Canyon Bozeman, MT. August 3, 2019.
3) Cottonwood Canyon Trail Photos By ZMM Enthusiasts David Matos, Who Hiked ~2 Miles On The Cottonwood Canyon Trail, Gallatin National Forest, July 17, 2024.
Right Click & Open In New Tab, to view a series of photos of => ZMM Enthusiasts David Matos Who Hiked ~2 Miles On Gallatin National Forest Trail Into Cottonwood Canyon Bozeman, MT. August 3, 2019.
ATTENTION:
…After you click on the Blue Link above, a page of 18 small photos will come up: Please scroll down to and read starting at the 8th small photo.

4).After You View The Above “Ten Photos”, You Will See 6 Photos of My (Henry Gurr) Day Hike From Hyalite Canyon To => Upper Fox Creek Meadow, Gallatin National Forest, South Of Bozeman, MT:
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Similar To Above => Right Click & Open In New Tab, to View Series Of 7 Photos of ZMM Enthusiasts August 3, 2019, Hike ~2 Miles On Gallatin National Forest Trail Into Cottonwood Canyon.

….PHOTO VIEWING NOTE: To best above-mentioned photos (and various of other H. Gurr Photos and Panoramas), Click Photo Several Times To Get Largest View. Then ClickDrag Sliders To See Parts Off Screen.
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Hyalite Canyon Road Back To Bozeman.

….“ … then on the road beyond find some other campers who give us a ride into town.“(End Chapter 22.)

The Road Near Upper Hyalite Creek, Gallatin National Forest, MT.
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You Been Looking At A Supplementary Photo Album Of 61 Photos, Which Are The Results Of =>
…Amateur Mountain Climber, Joe Pioro, who Juy 17-18 July 2024, Researched & Photographed => The Most Likely Gallatin National Forest Mountain Route That Fits => " “Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance” (ZMM) passages for The Narrator + Chris Mountain Climb Narrative”


In Essence, Mr. Pioro Showed How Well The ZMM Book’s => “Narrator + Chris Mountain Climb Narrative” Actually Fits The Gallatin National Forest’s Canyon & Mountain Landscape, And Thus Shows AUTHOR ROBERT PIRSIG’S SKILL & TECHNICAL ACCURACY, In Using Topo Maps, And His General Experience From Being In Montana Mountains, Without Actually Ever Been In The Exact Landscape He Writes Into The ZMM Book’s Mountain Climb Narrative.
…As you have seen in This Album, Mr. Pioro’s Photos consistently show that Author Robert Pirsig, in writing his Narrator & Chris Mountain Climb, has quite accurately, again and again, written the landscape of the Gallatin National Forest Mountains, into his Narrative Story.
And Thus Shows The Bottom Line Value Of The Effort Of Mr Pioro, And Henry Gurr, To Make & Display This Album’s Photos With Commentary.
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Further Along The Hyalite Canyon Road Back To Bozeman.

….“ In Bozeman it’s dark and late. Rather than wake up the DeWeeses and ask them to drive in, we check in at the main downtown hotel. Some tourists in the lobby stare at us. With my old Army clothes, walking stick, two-day beard and black beret I must look like some old-time Cuban revolutionary, in for a raid.
... In the hotel room we exhaustedly dump everything on the floor. I empty into a waste basket the stones picked up by my boots from the rushing water of the stream, then set the boots by a cold window to dry slowly. We collapse into the beds without a word. “(End Chapter 22.)

Further Along The Road Near Upper Hyalite Creek, Gallatin National Forest, MT.
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HERE ENDS THE 61 PHOTO ILLUSTRATION OF THE "N+C HYPOTHETICAL CLIMB TRAIL",
…Which Is A Supplementary Photo Album For ZMM Book Part III => “Chris + Narrator Mountain Climb”:
…These 61 Photos, show the results of => Amateur Mountain Climber, Joe Pioro, who Juy 17-18 July 2024, Researched & Photographed => The Most Likely Gallatin National Forest Mountain Route That Fits => The passages for “The Narrator + Chris Mountain Climb Narrative”, in Author Robert Pirsig’s book " “Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance” (ZMM)

… ATTENTION1:
Please remember that => This Is A Supplementary Photo Album For ZMM Book Part III => “Narrator + Chris Mountain Climb” , which has been patterned after (and supersedes) the first 32 Photos in a Gallery Album that Provisionally Illustrates “ The “ZMM Book Part III N+C Hypothetical Climb Trail, In Cottonwood Canyon, Gallatin Gateway, MT. ” Click Here To See => These 32 Provisional Photos and Photos, Showing Relevant Topo Maps, Which Have The Needed N+C WayPt Numbers.

ATTENTION2, Following The Above Mentioned 32 Photos, You Will See =>
…1) The NEXT 5 Photos, which are Topo Maps showing various N+C Trails, which are to help the reader to see where various WayPt N+C ## are located in Gallatin National Forest.
…2) AND the remaining ~202 Photos In This Album, show the continuing ZMM Part III Narrative, leaving Hyalite Canyon, continuing through Bozeman, and on West through to Prineville Junction, Oregon, now a Suburb of Redmond, Oregon.
Click Here For 1) A Topo Map Of The Approximate Route Climbed By Author Robert Pirsig & Son Chris, On or around July 17, AND 2) An Explanation For => Finding "A Narrator And Chris Hypothetical Mountain Climbing Trail" In The Gallatin National Forest. . ..
…NOTE: The Above-Mentioned “Hypothetical Mountain Climbing Trail” ,.Is A Trail (Marked by a series of N+C WayPoints) That Fits The “Mountain Climb” Descriptions Given By The Narrator, In The Book => " “Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance” (ZMM)..

.ATTENTION3:

…AFTER you click on the above Blue Link, a page of 18 small photos will come up: Please scroll down to and read starting at the 17th & 18th small photos.

.ATTENTION4:
…. AFTER You Have Studied The (Above Mentioned) 17th & 18th Small Photos, THEN Successively Click The Upper Right [>>] Icon, To Move Ahead To => .
…The NEXT FOUR PHOTOS, which are a series of Topographical (Topo) Maps that show my (Henry Gurr’s) best attempt to find "A ZMM Narrator and Chris Hypothetical Mountain Climbing Trail" which -=>
…Are so chosen to well fit The Narrator + Chris “Mountain Climb” Descriptions given by the ZMM Narrator, In The Book => " “Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance” (ZMM)..

.ATTENTION5:
…. YOU WANT TO GO DIRECTLY TO => THE CONTINUATION OF THE PHOTOS FOR ZMM BOOK PART 3 => “CHRIS + NARRATOR MOUNTAIN CLIMB” CLICK HERE...
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