The “Rapids Cafe'”, An Oregon Roadhouse.

…Lee Glover’s Photo From An Old Google Street View Close Up.
…This Is Very Likely What the Narrator Experienced At Klamath Lake.

… “We pull in for lunch at a roadhouse which belongs to this era too. Wooden frame badly in need of paint, neon beer signs in the window, gravel and engine drippings for a front lawn. .. Inside, the toilet seat is cracked and the washbowl is covered with grease streaks, …. “ (Cont. Next)

At intersection of road from Crater Lake, Rt-62, with US-97, along the Eastern shore of Klamath Lake, OR.

Many Thanks To ZMM Route Researcher Lee Glover, For Successfully Founding The “Rapids Café” Shown In The /\ Above /\ And Two Previous Photo.
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Inside The Little Pine Cafe' Back in Mitchel, OR. This Roadhouse Owner Illustrates What the Narrator May Have Experienced by Klamath Lake. Clearly This Restaurant Is Much, Much, Better Than What the Narrator Described at Klamath Lake.

…“ …. on my way back to our booth I take a second look at the owner behind the bar. A nineteen-twenties face. Uncomplicated, uncool and unbowed. This is his castle. We’re his guests. And if we don’t like his hamburgers we’d better shut up. .. When they arrive, the hamburgers, with giant raw onions, are tasty and the bottle beer is fine. A whole meal for a lot less than you’d pay at one of those old-ladies places with plastic flowers in the window. As we eat I see on the map we’ve taken a wrong turn way back and could have gotten to the ocean much quicker by another route. “ (Cont .Next)


Somewhere along the Eastern shore of Klamath Lake, OR.

SIDE NOTE: Did Author Robert Pirsig Ever Explicitly Say => How To Pick A Good Restaurant.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 Fred Goldman Emailed =>
…I am Fred Goldman: I spent thirty or forty years KNOWING that story about picking a restaurant from “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance”. But, in fact, it is not in that book. …I would have sworn on my life that it was. Go figure.
…The story that I recollect t was told upon entering the region of Mt. Rushmore, a place that does not appear in “The Art”.
I remembered all my life two stories from that book.
… One is {Robert Pirsig’s idea] about the gumption trap that I tell others about all the time.
….The other was the restaurant story: look for two out of three things, namely, live flowers, curtains and a personal name on the marquis.
…Both of these stories have proven their worth countless times for me.

I look forward to your reply and the reason you have contacted me after all this time.

Fred

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Standing By US-97 And Looking South, A View Along The Eastern Shore of Upper Klamath Lake.

…AND An Un-Answered Puzzle: Why Is This Super High Electric Fence Here?

….Along the road through here => The Narrator completes a four page discussion of: 1) Phaedrus’ discoveries about the University of Chicago, 2) Hutchins’s and Adler’s Great Books Program, and 3) Aristotle. 4) Phaedrus’s hatred of Aristotle is also reviewed.
…This part of the story ends with Phaedrus’ proposition regarding Aristotle, in an audacious letter to the Chairman of the Committee on Ideas and Methods. We then are switched back to the road =>]

…"We travel down the eastern shore of Klamath Lake on a three-lane highway that contains a lot of nineteen- twenties feeling. That’s when these three-laners were all made." (Cont. Next)

Eleven miles North of Klamath Falls, OR. Klamath is the name of one of three Native American tribes that lived in this region prior to the arrival of the Europeans.

….From Crater Lake, I drove South along Rt-62, and then US-97, eventually following the Eastern Shore of Upper Klamath Lake. For this distance I did NOT discover any evidence for a three lane road that would fit the Narrator’s descriptions. I deduce that I traveled on a newer straightened highway, different from the road the Narrator traveled on in 1968.

….The Discussion Below (Keyed To A Google Satellite View), Gives What Is Known About The Roads The Narrator May Have Taken Back In 1968.
As You May Have Already Done, In The Steps Mentioned In The SIXTH Photo Previous => In This Satellite View, You Can “Zoom-In Maximum”, To See =>
..1) US-97 is Generally A Straight High Speed Two Lanes … With some places added non-traffic safety lanes on both sides, … the whole length of Upper Klamath Lake.
..2) But where the Lake Shore & US-97 curve from going SE to going SW, you can here see (At Hagelstein County Park, shown Satellite View /\ Above/\) where there is ALSO Rt-671 (Algoma Road), Going South. …This is clearly an older, original, twisty-windy road, that goes through successive towns in the area.
..3) Following this Road South in the above-mentioned Satellite View, you can see it is narrow two lanes, with no evident wider places where there may once have been three lanes. Further South, shows two more stretches of older, original road (Shady Pine Road & Wocus Road), with the same conclusions.
..4) I (Henry Gurr) did Extensive Googling for dates when the Straight High Speed Two Lanes were constructed, but could NOT find any clues. But It seems likely that Author Robert Pirsig came through in 1968, before the newer Straight, High Speed, Two Lanes were constructed, and the ZMM Narrator followed the older original twisty-windy roads, as mentioned 2) above.
..5) TopoZone maps also show plenty of Dikes and Pumping Stations. Evidently, these Dikes And Pumping Stations are done for agriculture in agreement with the statements of Wetlands Wildlife Preserve. Various Internet WebPages say that 80% of original wetlands have been drained.
..6) Wikipedia Gives A Good History Of The Upper Klamath Lake Area, and Discusses The Uses & Modifications to Klamath Lake. Click Here.

SIDE NOTE:
Back in Bend, OR, US-97.was the ZMM Narrator’s “ hyped-up danger close in.. High Speed, four .lane highway. This was the “High Traffic” US-97 ZMM Route, which was Jampacked, Intense, Insane, and Over Busy!
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After Turning Off Of US-97, Looking South Along A City Street.

…The Eastern USA Cultural Influence Spreads West To Oregon.

…“It’s hot now, a West Coast sticky hotness which after the Western Desert hotness is very depressing. Really, this is just transported East, all of this scene, and I’d like to get to the ocean where it’s cool as soon as possible.“ (Cont. Next)

Entering Klamath Falls, OR. I have memories of when I traveled this way in Winter of ‘98. I remember how beastly hot the western mid pm sun became and that there was a three lane highway. I remember seeing, through the trees, the glare of the hot late afternoon sun, reflected from the lake. Amongst the trees were rundown, small unkempt beach type homes along the lake front. The beastly heat exaggerated the amount of time it took, at 55 mph, to pass the lake. I was surprised how big the lake was in this dry desert region. My trip by Klamath Lake was several days after a Workshop Course in Portland, OR, 15 Feb 1989.
… New topic: There was once a Klamath Falls on the so called Link River that connected Upper Klamath Lake to lower Klamath Lake. The falls have since been covered by water. Was this, perhaps, a dam raising Lower Klamath Lake which perhaps raised the level of both lakes as well as covering the falls?

For More Information About Klamath Lake, Click Here.
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After a Concentrated Search, I Was Able To Find the Road Along The Southern Shore Of The Lake.

…“ […. this is just transported East, all of this scene, and I’d like to get to the ocean where it’s cool as soon as possible.] .. I think about this all around the southern shore of Klamath Lake. “ (Cont. Next)

Rt-140, SW shore of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. ************************

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Along The Klamath Lake Southwest Shore Road, Looking Back Towards Klamath Falls.

…[The sticky heat of Klamath Lake brings memories to the Narrator.] “Sticky hotness and nineteen-twenties funk.. . . . That was the feeling of Chicago that summer.“ (Cont. Next)

Rt-140, SW shore of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.
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Nineteen Thirties Style Apartments Several Blocks North of the University of Chicago.

…Perhaps This What Phaedrus’s Chicago Place of Residence Looked Like.

[At Klamath Lake, the three lane highways, the heat, and 1930’s type buildings, remind the Narrator of his feelings of Chicago during that summer => ]… “When Phædrus and his family arrived in Chicago, he took up residence near the University and, since he had no scholarship, began full-time teaching of rhetoric at the University of Illinois, which was then downtown at Navy Pier, sticking out into the lake, funky and hot. .. Classes were different from those in Montana. The top high-school students had been skimmed off to the Champaign and Urbana campuses and almost all the students he taught were a solid monotonous C. When their papers were judged in class for Quality it was hard to distinguish among them. Phædrus, in other circumstances, probably would have invented something to get around this, but now this was just bread-and-butter work for which he couldn’t spare creative energy. His interest lay to the south at the other University.“(U. Chicago. Cont. Next)

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In Front of University of Chicago’s Cobb Lecture Hall Looking North.

…“He entered the University of Chicago registration lineup, announced his name to the registering Professor of Philosophy and noticed a slight setting of the eyes. The Professor of Philosophy said, Oh, yes, the Chairman had asked that he be registered in an Ideas and Methods course which the Chairman himself was teaching, and give him the schedule of the course. Phædrus noted that the time set for the class conflicted with his schedule at Navy Pier and chose instead another one, Ideas and Methods 251, Rhetoric. Since rhetoric was his own field, he felt a little more at home here. And the lecturer wasn’t the Chairman. The lecturer was the Professor of Philosophy now registering him. The Professor of Philosophy’s eyes, formerly set, now became wide. .. Phædrus returned to his teaching at Navy Pier and his reading for his first class. It was now absolutely necessary that he study as he had never studied before to learn the thought of Classic Greece in general and of one Classic Greek in particular—Aristotle.“ (U. Chicago Cont. Next)

University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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In Front of University of Chicago’s Cobb Lecture Hall, Looking East Onto the South Sidewalk Of Main Quad (Quadrangle). Swift Hall Is At Right.

…“Of all the thousands of students at the University of Chicago who had studied the ancient classics it’s doubtful that there was ever a more dedicated one. The main struggle of the University’s Great Books program was against the modern belief that the classics [Classic Greece in general and of one Classic Greek in particular—Aristotle.] had nothing of any real importance to say to a twentieth-century society. To be sure, the majority of students taking the courses must have played the game of nice manners with their teachers, and accepted, for purposes of understanding, the prerequisite belief that the ancients had something meaningful to say. But Phædrus, playing no games at all, didn’t just accept this idea. He passionately and fanatically knew it. He came to hate them vehemently, and to assail them with every kind of invective he could think of, not because they were irrelevant but for exactly the opposite reason. The more he studied, the more convinced he became that no one had yet told the damage to this world that had resulted from our unconscious acceptance of their thought.“ (Cont. Next)

University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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Homes Along the Highway in SW Oregon.

…“[Around the southern shore of Klamath Lake we pass through some suburban-type development,] and then leave the lake …. “ (Cont. Next)

South Shore, Klamath Lake, OR. Photo to fit ZMM passage needed.
…Caution: There is NO Route marker sign where Rt-140 turns left away from the lake’s West Shore Drive.
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Among The Majestic Tall Douglas Fir Trees, Looking West, A View Of The Road Summit In SW Oregon Mountains Going West

…“ Chris wants to stop and walk among them and so we stop. .. While he goes for a walk I lean my back as carefully as possible against a big slab of Douglas fir bark and look up and try to remember.. . . . “ (Cont. Next)

On Rt-140, eleven miles West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. All the scenery since Crater Lake exactly fits the Narrator’s descriptions. ************************
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Looking Back Towards Klamath Lake (East) In Mountainous Southwest Oregon. View From Where the Road “Crests” the Summit.

“ …. [and then leave the lake] to the west, toward the coast. The road goes up now into the forests of huge trees not at all like the rain-starved forests we’ve been through.“ (Cont. Next)

Eleven miles West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. Caution: There is no Route marker sign where Rt-140 turns left away from the lake’s West Shore Drive. ************************

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Huge Douglas Fir Trees Are Found Along the Road’s Summit. Looking West (Forward) Towards Medford, OR and Grants Pass, OR.

…“Huge Douglas firs are on either side of the road. On the cycle we can look up along their trunks, straight up, for hundreds of feet as we pass between them. “ (Cont. Next)

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Cobb Lecture Hall, Main Entrance Door. The Narrator Tries To Remember What Happened At U. Chicago That Summer of 1961.

…“ The details of what he learned are lost now, but from events that occurred later I know he absorbed tremendous quantities of information. He was capable of doing this on a near-photographic basis. To understand how he arrived at his condemnation of the Classic Greeks it’s necessary to review in summary form the "mythos over logos" argument, which is well known to scholars of Greek and is often a cause of fascination with that area of study.“(U. Chicago Cont. Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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East End of The University of Chicago’s Main Quad Looking North.

The Narrator next reviews:
…1) “ Mythos is the sum total of the early historic and prehistoric myths which preceded the logos.“
…2) Memories of Phardrus’s argument of how “To go outside the mythos is to become insane. . . . “.
…3) And concludes this part of his Chautauqua with a major conclusion: ] “Now it comes! Because Quality is the generator of the mythos. That’s it. That’s what he meant when he said, "Quality is the continuing stimulus which causes us to create the world in which we live. All of it. Every last bit of it. Religion isn’t invented by man. Men are invented by religion. Men invent responses to Quality, and among these responses is an understanding of what they themselves are.“ (U. Chicago Cont. Next)

University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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At East End of The University of Chicago’s Main Quad Looking Northwest.

…[Phaedrus] said: “ ["Quality is the continuing stimulus which causes us to create the world in which we live. All of it. Every last bit of it." ]…. “You know something and then the Quality stimulus hits and then you try to define the Quality stimulus, but to define it all you’ve got to work with is what you know. So your definition is made up of what you know. It’s an analogue to what you already know. It has to be. It can’t be anything else. And the mythos grows this way. By analogies to what is known before. The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues upon analogues.“ (U. Chicago Cont. Next)

University of Chicago, Chicago, IL. *************************
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East End of The University of Chicago’s Main Quad Looking East.

…“[The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues upon analogues.] These fill the collective consciousness of all communicating mankind. Every last bit of it. The Quality is the track that directs the train. What is outside the train, to either side—that is the terra incognita of the insane. He knew that to understand Quality he would have to leave the mythos. That’s why he felt that slippage. He knew something was about to happen.“ (Cont. Next)

University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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A View Among the Douglas Firs At Road Summit In SW Oregon Mountains.

…“I see Chris returning through the trees now. He looks relaxed and happy. He shows me a piece of bark and asks if he can save it as a souvenir. I haven’t been fond of loading the cycle with these bits and pieces he finds and will probably throw away when he gets home, but this time say okay anyway.“ (Cont. Next)

Eleven miles West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. The Narrator has stopped here because Chris asked. Also, he allows Chris, against normal practice, to bring bark. Is the Narrator trying to please Chris more?
…Or is it the Narrator’s response to his own Quality lectures? Nevertheless, the Narrator doesn’t go with Chris or promote more of these relaxing opportunities for himself and Chris.
…Yes, I know the travel narrative “story” is “just” a vehicle for these Chautauquas, but evidently such walks with Chris, did not happen, or the Narrator would have mentioned them.
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