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Is This What the Grocery Store Looked Like Along The "The Long Desolate Road".?
… Perhaps Enter The Café, And Go Under The Rusty Roof,


"At one stretch in the long desolated road we see an isolated grocery store.
... Inside, in back, we find a place to sit on some packing cases and drink canned beer.
... The fatigue and backache are getting to me now. I push the packing case over to a post and lean on that.
... Chris’s expression shows he is really settling into something bad. This has been a long hard day. I told Sylvia way back in Minnesota that we could expect a slump in spirits like this on the second or third day and now it’s here. Minnesota—when was that?
... A woman, badly drunk, is buying beer for some man she’s got outside in a car. She can’t make up her mind what brand to buy and the wife of the owner waiting on her is getting mad. She still can’t decide, but then sees us, and weaves over and asks if we own the motorcycles. We nod yes. Then she wants a ride on one. I move back and let John handle this.
... He puts her off graciously, but she comes back again and again, offering him a dollar for a ride. I make some jokes about it, but they’re not funny and just add to the depression. We get out and back into the brown hills and heat again.
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Watauga, SD. Mark Richardson says, in his new book, that he thinks he found this store as he followed the ZMM Route. It was in Watauga, SD, a town that was half way between Macintosh and McLaughlin. Although I was not able to identify what he saw, this story & location was found by Gary Wegner, who said “If you use “Street View” when you click on this link [below] you might be able to pinpoint the store:”
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Tuesday, July 9, 2024: … Brenda’s Tumbleweed Café, Where Inside the Window Is Sign => “Greasy Spoon Café. Free Rolaids With Every Meal.”
...An Email From Pirsig Pilgrim Gary Wegner, Alerted Us That Pirsig Pilgrim Mark Richardson Had Found The Likely ZMM Narrator’s “Isolated Grocery Store”, At


On Rt-12, Watauga, SD.
…Although we were there mid Tuesday afternoon, Brenda’s Tumbleweed Café, was already closed, to our great misfortune. :-((

ON TRIPADVISOR WEBPAGE, TWO COMMENTS =>

June 6, 2022, Kelly S. said => AWESOME!’ Five Stars.
…Had the sausage egg cheese sandwich! OMG! It was a mazing and a meal within itself. Homey atmosphere and very friendly!!!

Sept 2018 Elwhaswan said => Oasis in the Desert Five Stars.
…There is not much for services in this part of the world, but if you are lucky enough to come by Brenda's Tumbleweed Cafe when she is open (Tues-Sat 7 AM-5:30 PM?) you are in for a treat. While this is not fine dining, it is rural American cuisine at its best. Everything Brenda makes is made with love and the portions are huge. Five Stars. Value & Service & Food.

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Tuesday, July 9, 2024: … While At Brenda’s Tumbleweed Café, Repeatedly Investigative, Curious, & Prying …. Adah Schriever …. Steps Over The Bushes, To Look Into The Window. He Calls “Come Look”.
…The NEXT Photos Shows What’s Inside The Window. .

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Tuesday, July 9, 2024: … Brenda’s Tumbleweed Café, Where Inside the Window Is Sign => “Greasy Spoon Café. Free Rolaids With Every Meal.” .
…Sorry Not To Get More Of These Words Into This Photo. Please Send Email If You Know The Whole Wording, Or Have A Better Photo.
…At Bottom You Can See Reflected In Glass Of Window, Henry Gurr’s Hands: One To Hold Camera & Other To Shield Sunlight, So Henry Can See What Camera Will Shoot.

…UpDate Aug 11, 2025 HSG Called (605) 524-9696, Owner Brenda Carroll Answered, Very Helpful & Friendly And Agreed To Send Photo, Which You Will See NEXT Photo.


ON GOOGLE REVIEWS 4.6 STARS: THESE SELECTED COMMENTS =>
6 years ago Fireboss PB Said
…Stopped in for some hot coffee and had one of the best caramel rolls I have every had. Great and friendly service! I didn't have a hamburger, but they look fantastic on the grill. Great place for a stop!
6 years ago Brady Sauer said =>
…The Tumbleweed Cafe is by far my favorite place to eat. Just a small little restaurant owned and operated by one woman. Her "special recipe" makes for THE BEST hamburgers you will ever eat. If you order fries, expect about a pound of them. "Nobody goes hungry around here!"
6 years ago Brian Klawitter said =>
…It's not the Hilton's restaurant but excellent portions of good ol ranch cooking. Inexpensive for portion size and Brenda's personality is one of a kind. She's one of the highlights of our 500 mile trip each summer. Warning: Don't pick up the coffee pot while it's still dripping, you might get a boot in the caboose! …. Most people order a 1/2 order of hashbrowns, some 1/4 order and very few go for the gold and order a full order. You've been warn! :-)
3 years ago Andrea Troyer said =>
…Wonderful lady runs this place, always a smile! I’ve tried just about everything on the menu and can hardly decide it’s all so good. The kids enjoy going and beg to go back.
2 years ago Lynch Farms said =>
….Dine in | Lunch | $1–10 …. Amazing place! Wonderful service and my family loves the food. Thank you for the good home cooking! We’ll have to visit again soon!
6 years ago Brenda Even said =>
…Food is ALWAYS DELICIOUS! …. Her moto is ~ "If you leave hungry it's your own fault!" …. Plan on a HUGE serving of fried ~ can always share. Otherwise you'd better ask for A HALF ORDER!!
3 years ago Layne Schoon said =>
…AMAZING food as always and such cheap prices!!!!!! Keep up the great cooking Brenda, your home made fries are to die for.

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Aug 11, 2025 HSG Called (605) 524-9696, Owner Brenda Carroll Answered, Very Helpful & Friendly And Agreed To Send Photo, Which You See Above.  

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Aug 11, 2025 HSG Called (605) 524-9696, Owner Brenda Carroll Answered, Very Helpful & Friendly And Agreed To Send Photo, Which You See Above.

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Sunset & Clouds.
"What we have here is a conflict of visions of reality. The world as you see it right here, right now, is reality, regardless of what the scientists say it might be. That’s the way John sees it. But the world as revealed by its scientific discoveries is also reality, regardless of how it may appear, and people in John’s dimension are going to have to do more than just ignore it if they want to hang on to their vision of reality. John will discover this if his points burn out.
MacIntosh, SD. is announced by elevator seen in the distance. A weak gust of wind sounds in my ears. Redwinged Blackbirds call in the distance. This is strangely comforting to me, despite otherwise silent lonely terrain. As the ZMM Narrator reminds us; In this isolate area, any mechanical or health problem will intrude into YOUR reality!! As was my practice, I had stopped to photograph “town arrival”. Then I realized the dramatic clouds qualified for a 360 deg panorama. Instructions will be given in the second photo next.
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Clouds & Sunset & Open Space. The buildings of the next town are seen In the distance.
"That’s really why he got upset that day when he couldn’t get his engine started. It was an intrusion on his reality. It just blew a hole right through his whole groovy way of looking at things and he would not face up to it because it seemed to threaten his whole life style. In a way he was experiencing the same sort of anger scientific people have sometimes about abstract art, or at least used to have. That didn’t fit their life style either. .. What you’ve got here, really, are two realities, one of immediate artistic appearance and one of underlying scientific explanation, and they don’t match and they don’t fit and they don’t really have much of anything to do with one another. That’s quite a situation.
Clouds & Sunset MacIntosh, SD. These black clouds did produce a violent thunderstorm later that night. As you will see in the next days rainy day pictures, this apparently is the advanced edge of a new weather system. Although clear the next morning, took some 8 hours for the stormy cold skies to finally clear away. Ahead, were 7 miles of removed pavement and soft rutted mud. The new highway should be there now!
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Sunset & Clouds & Windmill On " One Stretch In The Long Desolate Road.

Earlier, The ZMM Narrator while traveling along the Road Photo /\ Above /\, mentions how VERY tired they all are getting and says
….On " one stretch in the long desolate road. …. My legs have become so stiff they are aching. I hold them out one at a time and turn my foot as far to the left and to the right as it will go to stretch the leg. It helps, but then the other muscles get tired from holding the legs out. “, and about here on the road, the ZMM Narrator finishes his Chautauqua on "What we have here is a conflict of visions of reality.

Morristown, SD. Please let me know if you have location information about the “isolated grocery store” mentioned above by Narrator.

…. When I (Henry S Gurr) travel, it is my practice to stop & take photos of Sunset Scenery. Thus at a rise in the road, when my eyes lay on the /\ above /\ shown Windmill, AND a wider place at a dirt side road, I stop here to “shoot” the Sunset, but then realize with all the dramatic clouds, good place for a panorama series before the last glow of the sunset winks out.
…. To see a Panorama of the /\ Above /\ Photo of Road & Sunset, Click Here & => After this Gallery Albums Page Comes Up, Scroll Down To & Read Description Of => “Album 360 Degree Panoramas for Book "Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" THEN Click On The Small Photo, and AFTER this Small Photos Page Comes Up => Click on the fourth narrow strip photo. AFTER this Panorama Comes Up, you will have to use the “Click&Drag” sliders at Bottom & Right to see the parts of photo off screen. : …. (Alternate: If you have already viewed a panorama in a second (new) browser window, simply switch to it and choose fourth Gallery Picture)

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A Petrified Wood Wonderland and City Park.
"By the time we reach Lemmon we are really aching tired. At a bar we hear about a campground to the south. John wants to camp in a park in the middle of Lemmon, a comment that sounds strange and angers Chris greatly.
City Park, Lemmon, SD. is seen here, next morning with last night’s rain still evident on the streets. Is this the “park in the middle of Lemmon” where John Sutherland wanted to camp? lt was dark when I arrived in Lemmon, so I went directly to the "campground to the south”. This is at the Liewellyn Jones Recreation Area about 10 miles South on Rt73. As I started down Rt73, there was a big sign: “NO GAS FOR 70 MILES”. Truly this is semi-arid area of our country has sparse population and is far away from parts and repair services. Come prepared to deal with emergencies in your health and your vehicle. But be assured there will be plenty of friendly people who will help in any way they can. A word to the wise: One of your best preparations for traveling in this (or any) place, would be learning and practicing “maintenance” as advocated in ZMM itself.
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Main Street & Business District Where Our ZMM Voyagers Went Shopping For Camping Supplies. The City Park Where John Suggested Camping Is In Distance At Left of Street.
"I’m more tired now than I can remember having been in a long time. The others too. But we drag ourselves through a supermarket, pick up whatever groceries come to mind and with some difficulty pack them onto the cycles. The sun is so far down we’re running out of light. It’ll be dark in an hour. We can’t seem to get moving. I wonder, are we dawdling, or what? "C’mon, Chris, let’s go," I say. .. "Don’t holler at me. I’m ready.“ The
Business District, Lemmon, SD. The City Park, shown in the previous picture, is in distance where you see trees on both sides of the street. My Lemmon, SD. photos, with wet streets, were actually taken the next morning after I experienced the thunderstorm at the Shadehill Reservoir. (Shadehill Reservoir Campground photos now follow.)
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View of Lake and Campground Where Pirsig, Chris, John and Sylvia Camped the Second Night of Their Trip.
"We drive down a county road from Lemmon, exhausted, for what seems a long, long time, but can’t be too long because the sun is still above the horizon. The campsite is deserted. Good. But there is less than a half-hour of sun and no energy left. This is the hardest now. .. I try to get unpacked as fast as possible but am so stupid with exhaustion I just set everything by the camp road without seeing what a bad spot it is. Then I see it is too windy. This is a High Plains wind. It is semidesert here, everything burned up and dry except for a lake, a large reservoir of some sort below us. The wind blows from the horizon across the lake and hits us with sharp gusts. It is already chilly. There are some scrubby pines back from the road about twenty yards … "

Campground Road, Liewellyn Jones Recreation Area, SD.
Directions to get this photo location:
=> Go South from Lemmon, ND, cross into S. Dakota on Rt 73 going some 20 miles, till you go down a grade and over a causeway with a lake on both sides. As you come up from the lake level to the top of the grade, turn right (West) into the park. Almost immediately you will see a right turn (North) into a campground. Within 300 feet you will be driving along the edge of drop-off to lake. (If you get to the town of Shadehill, SD or a sign for Shadehill Reservoir, you have gone too far South. (Thanks to Lee Glover for this correction.)

One Of Robert Pirsig’s 12 1968 Color Pictures, Shows This Same Reservoir In The Distance. However, in contrast to my picture /\ above /\, Dr. Pirsig’s picture shows the reservoir and campground as relatively new. Please return here to these ZMMquality Photos after viewing one Pirsig photo.
…. Click Here: And AFTER this Albums Page Comes Up => Click on the TOP Album Re Pirsig’s 1968 Photos. => Then scroll down to the fourth Gallery Picture. THEN AFTER the Photo comes up, Click On It For Largest Size. THEN compare this landscape /\ Above /\ Photo, with that seen Pirsig’s Photos Of His Original 1968 Trip.

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A Fire Place Made From Petrified-Wood-Logs, View of Lake, and Last Remaining Glow of Sunset:
….At Same Campground, AND About Same Degree of Darkness, Where Pirsig, Chris, John and Sylvia Camped the Second Night of Their Trip.

The wind blows from the horizon across the lake and hits us with sharp gusts. It is already chilly. .. I see between trips that Sylvia is making a real effort at setting things up for cooking, but she’s as tired as I am. .. The sun goes down. .. John has gathered wood but it’s too big and the wind is so gusty it’s hard to start. It needs to be splintered into kindling. I go back over to the scrub pines, hunt around through the twilight for the machete, but it’s already so dark in the pines I can’t find it. I need the flashlight. I look for it, but it’s too dark to find that either.
Campground Road, Shadehill Reservoir, Liewellyn Jones Recreation Area, SD.
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…..NOTE: While you are at The Campground, you can see the traffic on South Dakota Rt73, to East about ½ mile.

As you see in /\ Above /\ Photo AND mentioned (and shown in Fifth Photos Previously), These Black Clouds Did Produce A Violent Thunderstorm Later That Night, But Contrary To The ZMM Narrator, The Mosquitos Were Relatively Few.
….The ZMM Narrator mentions they were badly swollen from mosquito bite the next morning. This is possibly because back in 1968, the lake was relatively new: Given time to stock the lake with fish, they will eventually eat up the Mosquito Larva, and remove the pain, literally. Because I (Henry S Gurr) camped here (June 18 2002), prior to the onset of hot weather, the few mosquitoes that came after me were quite manageable. The same is true in Summer 2006, when my Son David & I again camped there, minus any rain or storm. ((To view dark photos, turn off lights near your computer, and increase screen brightness.))

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Campground & My Tent, Which Is At The Campground Where The ZMM Narrator, Chris and John & Sylvia Sutherland Stayed In July 1968.

…"A gibbous moon comes up from the horizon beyond the pines, and by its slow, patient arc across the sky I measure hour after hour of semisleep. Too much fatigue. The moon and strange dreams and sounds of mosquitoes and odd fragments of memory become jumbled and mixed in an unreal lost landscape in which the moon is shining and yet there is a bank of fog and I am riding a horse and Chris is with me and the horse jumps over a small stream that runs through the sand toward the ocean somewhere beyond. And then that is broken . . . .And then it reappears.
…And in the fog there appears an intimation of a figure. It disappears when I look at it directly, but then reappears in the corner of my vision when I turn my glance. I am about to say something, to call to it, to recognize it, but then do not, knowing that to recognize it by any gesture or action is to give it a reality which it must not have. But it is a figure I recognize even though I do not let on. It is Phædrus.
…Evil spirit. Insane. From a world without life or death.
….The figure fades and I hold panic down . . . tight . . . not rushing it . . . just letting it sink in . . . not believing it, not disbelieving it . . . but the hair crawls slowly on the back of my skull . . . he is calling Chris, is that it? . . . Yes?
“ . . . End Chapter 5.

Campground, Shadehill Reservoir Lake, SD. where the Petrified-Log Fire-palace of previous photo, is illuminated by the pink glow at left. The campground has been much improved since 1968 and is now a very nice place! The temperature was good for camping and I experienced only 1 or 2 mosquitos.
…However, I experienced a violent thunderstorm that night, which produced much close-up lightning & monster wind gusts!
…I nearly always camped my entire ZMM Research Trip, from Minneapolis to San Francisco, and all my campgrounds, including this one, were good experiences, except for this storm.
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Tuesday, July 9, 2024: … At Sunset, Henry Gurr And David Matos Arrive At Llewellyn Johns Recreation Area, SD.
…A View of the Same Lake Where Pirsig, Chris, John and Sylvia Camped the Second Night of Their 1968 Trip.


…The ZMM Narrator says =>
"We drive down a county road from Lemmon, exhausted, for what seems a long, long time, but can’t be too long because the sun is still above the horizon. The campsite is deserted. …"

Campground Road, Llewellyn Johns Recreation Area, SD: On Rt-73, 7.5 Miles South Of Lemmon, SD 57638 .
…NOTE: Here, unlike The ZMM Narrator & Company, David & Henry have almost NO problem with mosquitoes. The same is true for Henry’s camping here in the Summer of 2002.

STORY: When Henry Gurr And David Matos Arrive At Llewellyn Johns Recreation Area, SD, the sun was just above the horizon, with a beautiful orange sun disk, and orange glow in the surrounding clouds! Henry quick got 7 photos for the Panorama you see above.
…However, because normally Henry asks FlatWorld to remove the over-bright sun in Panoramas, this was done as you see above, AND made adjusts to daylight looking scenery. But all the orange sunset beauty was gone, :-((
… And every time Henry looked at this newly Stitched Panorama,(about 5 times), he repeatedly desired the content of the original photos which have => Orange Sun & Darker Sunset Conditions, in the view.
…So, Henry asked FlatWorld to redo the Stitch, leaving in the appearance of his original photos, which you see next Photo =>

…Please send email as to your reaction to seeing this /\NEXT/\ Panorama.

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Tuesday, July 9, 2024: … At Sunset, Henry Gurr And David Matos Arrive At Llewellyn Johns Recreation Area, SD.
…A View of the Same Lake Where Pirsig, Chris, John and Sylvia Camped the Second Night of Their 1968 Trip.


…The ZMM Narrator says =>
"We drive down a county road from Lemmon, exhausted, for what seems a long, long time, but can’t be too long because the sun is still above the horizon. The campsite is deserted. Good. But there is less than a half-hour of sun and no energy left. This is the hardest now. .. I try to get unpacked as fast as possible but am so stupid with exhaustion I just set everything by the camp road without seeing what a bad spot it is. Then I see it is too windy. This is a High Plains wind. It is semidesert here, everything burned up and dry except for a lake, a large reservoir of some sort below us. The wind blows from the horizon across the lake and hits us with sharp gusts. It is already chilly. There are some scrubby pines back from the road about twenty yards … "

Campground Road, Llewellyn Johns Recreation Area, SD: On Rt-73, 7.5 Miles South Of Lemmon, SD 57638 .
…NOTE: Here, unlike The ZMM Narrator & Company, David & Henry have almost NO problem with mosquitoes. The same is true for Henry’s camping here in the Summer of 2002.

STORY CONTINUE FROM THE PREVIOUS PHOTO
…When Henry Gurr And David Matos Arrive At Llewellyn Johns Recreation Area, SD, the sun was just above the horizon, with a beautiful orange sun disk, and orange glow in the surrounding clouds! Henry quick got 7 photos for the Panorama you see above.
…However, as stated in the previous photo, FlatWorld,remove the over-bright orange sun in the completed Panoramas,
…..But all the orange sunset beauty was gone, :-((

… And every time Henry looked at this newly Stitched Panorama,(about 5 times), he repeatedly desired the content of the original photos which have => Orange Sun & Darker Sunset Conditions, in the view.
…So, Henry asked FlatWorld to redo the Stitch, leaving in the appearance of his original photos, which you see /\Above/\Photo.

…Please send email as to your reaction to seeing these TWO Panoramas. One Daylight Green.,Versus the other Sunset Orange.

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How Can Plants Survive the Dry and Heat of this Tortured Land?
"… it’s already too hot to sleep. … Beyond the pines are burned grass and clumps of earth and sand so bright they are hard to look at. The heat, silence, and barren hills and blank sky give a feeling of great, intense space. .. Not a bit of moisture in the sky. Today’s going to be a scorcher. …"
Shadehill Reservoir, SD. This photo was taken in the "badlands", some 70 miles ahead. Most of my photos generally show lots of green vegetation in this area of the Dakotas and Eastern Montana. This is a considerable contrast to what the Narrator emphasizes again and again in ZMM. He repeatedly says how desolate and dry and burnt-up this landscape is. Especially from Lemmon, SD. to Locate, MT. Remember that Pirsig arrived at this reservoir soon after the construction of this campground, There would have been little recovery of the grass and thus would lots of eroded bare earth, with rain deposited sand in places. Also remember that Pirsig came through nearly a month later than I did and well after water from winter snow and spring rain could have been completely exhausted. Yes, “burnt to a crisp” landscape could, in addition, be the finishing result of the “duesey of a heat wave” they experienced as they traveled from here into Eastern Montana. The facts do fit Pirsig’s writing concerning the Narrator’s “scorcher” heat wave. An 108 Degree Fahrenheit heat wave, in EXACTLY this same area, IS confirmed in the 9 July 1968 weather record!
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The Next Morning, At The Shadehill Reservoir Lake Campground, The Super Clear Sky And Super Dry Arid Landscape, Are The Environment For The Narrator’s Discovery Of Stripped Threads On His Cycle,

…Although The Narrator’s Problem With ""Thread’s Stripped In The Chain Adjustment,"” May Seem An UN-important Problem, We Eventually See That =>

…This Starts An Important Explanation For The "Back Up.” Problem. AND Leads A Page Later To A Metaphoric Bridge Connections (MBC).


…"While loading the remaining gear on the luggage rack I see with surprise that the rear tire is worn way down. All that speed and heavy load and heat on the road yesterday must have caused it. The chain is also sagging and I get out the tools to adjust it and then groan.
…"What’s the matter," John says.
…"Thread’s stripped in the chain adjustment."
…I remove the adjusting bolt and examine the threads. "It’s my own fault for trying to adjust it once without loosening the axle nut. The bolt is good." I show it to him. "It looks like the internal threading in the frame that’s stripped."
…John stares at the wheel for a long time. "Think you can make it into town?"
…"Oh, yeah, sure. You can run it forever. It just makes the chain difficult to adjust."
…He watches carefully as I take up the rear axle nut until it’s barely snug, tap it sideways with a hammer until the chain slack is right, then tighten up the axle nut with all my might to keep the axle from slipping forward later on, and replace the cotter pin. Unlike the axle nuts on a car, this one doesn’t affect bearing tightness.
…"How did you know how to do that?" he asks.
…"You just have to figure it out."
…"I wouldn’t know where to start," he says.
…I think to myself, That’s the problem, all right, where to start. To reach him you have to back up and back up, and the further back you go, the further back you see you have to go, until what looked like a small problem of communication turns into a major philosophic enquiry. That, I suppose, is why the Chautauqua.


NOTE1: In the above ZMM passage, especially notice 4 cases of => "back up. AND then notice how a full & necessary "back up“ explanation can lead to => "a small problem of communication [which] turns into a major philosophic enquiry. That, I suppose, is why the Chautauqua.

NOTE2: This above last sentence is essentially, how the initial writing of ZMM book got started. Author Robert Pirsig’s first writing, on several paper pages, was originally to help John understand how to do his own cycle maintenance. However because "back up’s.“kept happening, the “several pages” kept multiplying, until ZMM was finished, as we now see it!

Campground, Shadehill Reservoir Lake, SD. The campground has been much improved since **********************

In His Book ''Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance,” (ZMM), Author Robert Pirsig, Wants Us To Remember That ANY TIME There Is A Same “Idea”, Applied To A Different Circumstance, A Page Later. We Should =>
..1) Take notice and actively, poetically see the Metaphoric Bridge Connections (in this case really an Analogy Connection), either way, between the a) The first discussion and b) The second discussion.
..2) We should realize these MBC’s (And Analogy Connections) are carefully and purposefully put here by Author Robert Pirsig to help reader understanding or for other emphasis, which in this case is the "Back Up.” Problem. .
..3) In fact, it is very likely that Author Robert Pirsig chose present the a) and b) this way, is so that the descriptions of a) & b) would effectively two-way illuminate (by MBC or Analogy) each of the respective topic “ideas”.
..4) For example, one of the two different “types” of Metaphoric Bridge Connections, which Author Robert Pirsig Wants The ZMM Reader To See, Is IN The Above ZMM Passage, which has the FIRST HALF Of An Important Metaphoric Bridge Connections, and is explained as follows =>
… In this above ZMM Passage, we especially notice 4 cases of => "back up.

..5) Then one page later (The SECOND HALF Of An Important Metaphoric Bridge Connection), where the Narrator TWICE says "back up.“ as follows =>
I want to talk about the underlying form of the world of underlying form itself…. but before I can use it honestly I have to back up and say what it is and means, and that is a long story in itself. Part of this back-up problem.…."
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Please See The NEXT Photo, Which Gives A Full Narrator Passage To Show The Larger Context Of Passage Next Above.
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Continued From The Previous Photo => An Important Explanation For The Thistle Prickly "Back Up.” Problem =>

…Which Leads A Page Later To A Metaphoric Bridge Connection. (In This Case An Analogy Connection.)

…Below Is Presented A Full ZMM Narrator Passage To Show The Larger Context Of Passage, Which Has => (The SECOND HALF Of An Important Metaphoric Bridge Connection), Where =>

…In The Last Sentence The Narrator TWICE Says "Back Up.



…" Back in Minnesota when we were traveling through some marshland I did some talking about the "shapes" of technology, the "death force" that the Sutherlands seem to be running from. I want to move now in the opposite direction from the Sutherlands, toward that force and into its center. In doing so we will be entering Phædrus’ world, the only world he ever knew, in which all understanding is in terms of underlying form.
…The world of underlying form is an unusual object of discussion because it is actually a mode of discussion itself. You discuss things in terms of their immediate appearance or you discuss them in terms of their underlying form, and when you try to discuss these modes of discussion you get involved in what could be called a platform problem. You have no platform from which to discuss them other than the modes themselves.
…Previously I was discussing his world of underlying form, or at least the aspect of it called technology, from an external view. Now I think it’s right to talk about that world of underlying form from its own point of view.
I want to talk about the underlying form of the world of underlying form itself.
…To do this, first of all, a dichotomy is necessary, but before I can use it honestly I have to back up and say what it is and means, and that is a long story in itself. Part of this back-up problem.


NOTE1: The above ZMM passages are given so the ZMM Reader can see another example of Author Robert Pirsig’s Metaphoric Bridge Connection. (In this case an Analogy Connection.)
…From here in ZMM, the Narrator’s presentation for approximately the next six pages, is his "Back Up,”.but for the ZMM reader, this is hard to see. (This Ends Chapter 6.)

NOTE2: There Is A THIRD Discussion Of "Back Up” (Spelled "Backup”) Which Is Near The Start Of ZMM Chapter 24.
…Here of course, the ZMM Reader should remember (By Metaphoric Bridge Connection) the previous two examples, and thus have increased understanding.

Campground, Shadehill Reservoir Lake, SD. The campground has been much improved since 1968 and is now a very nice place!
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