John Sutherland, In Front Of His Home, A Slightly Different Photo.
…Henry Gurr phone called Mr. Sutherland May 21, 2003, and was able to reach him about a week later. Henry’s notes written at time of phone call follow =>
…When he answered, he said “Hellooooowwww”, in a musical sing-song voice, so Herny knew it was a good time to call.
…Henry explained his idea of an Interview with Mr. Sutherland, saying want to travel to Minneapolis, before summer got too hot. John replied, “I have two band concerts [playing his drums] in next two weeks.” And said “Also, I sell Cards and Stuff, and I need to get back to Santa Fe: [Wants to get more photographs there, for his Note Cards. ]
…Mr. Sutherland, probably because Henry raised topic of his 1968 travel ZMM Route with Pirsig & Chris, went on to say
… “Camping? Poor decision. He wanted to go into a gully, I thought we ought to go higher. ….. Miskitos ….. Problems with Chris …. I don’t remember the Fire Crackers. I had a kidding thing going with him [Chris]. We got along splendidly.”
….”Sylvia wrote to Bob [Robert Pirsig], two weeks ago, saying he should have been nicer to Chris. Bob wrote back, don’t worry.”
…”Neighbor kids [around our home] were nuts about Sylvis. Back then she wouldn’t boss them around. Kids really responded to mothering thing.”
…”I don’t remember the Hotel.” [in Miles City, MT.]
…… “I will see Sylvia and ask her about it, if you want me to “
…”Sylvia doesn’t like the ZMM Book … “
…… “Women and some guys I work with, don’t like Pirsig’s ideas on women …for example Lila.”
…”I just read a relevant review about book “LILA“,.[which said Pirsig] used omen in an Anti-Woman way…. Used symbolically sort of bad.”
…”This “LILA“,.review was Oct 13, 1991, by Richard Restak, in New Youk Times Book Reviews.”
….”Pirsig’s first Wife? I’ve had no contact, since book [ZMM came out]. She was a newspaper [writer] Moved to Florida years ago, married a Newspaper Reporter.”
…Pirsig? Nell [their daughter], is~7 years old now. His other son is still around Ted Pirsig No Pirsig’s Minn Director St Paul. (The previous 6 words are as written in my notes. But the meaning is unclear.)
( END Henry Gurr’s notes written at time of phone call.)
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