…Seeing This Photo, Prompted Bill Quaccia To Say -=> Bill Beebe getting ready to ride his 1989 Honda GB500TT. …. Bill Quaccia sitting in back of Sandy's shop.

…(Photo Thanks To Blue Nelson.)

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Sandy McGregor‘s Welding Shop Front Door, As Seen From The Inside.
…Especially Notice White Paper Mr. McGregor Placed At The Edge Of The Door:
……This Is An Official Permit, For Him To Have Signs Placed Along The Highway Edge Right-Of-Way.

...EXPLANATION: This Photo Has Been Horizontally Flipped, So You Can Read The Red Words On The Glass. However This Reverses The Printing On The White Paper Permit.

…(Photo Thanks To Blue Nelson.)

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On The Left Side Of This Calendar, Found In Alexander Henry (Sandy) McGregor’s Welding Shop, You Can See => Dec 75 Shown In Black-Outlined White Lettering.
…We May Suppose This Is About When Mr. McGregor Stopped Working In This Shop And Thus Closed His Shop Soon After1975.
…In The SMALL Calendar, You Can Also See The Same Date, And This Agrees With The Larger Calendar.

…(Photo Thanks To Blue Nelson.)

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*** POSTLOG ***

…It is indeed most fortunate, that Mr. McGregor’s shop is still there, and virtually unchanged since ~1975, when Mr. McGregor stopped his work there. After all, the shop might have completely changed because some other person took over the work there. Or the shop was torn down because the property was converted to some other use.

…Thus, we as ZMM Enthusiasts should consider ourselves very lucky to have these photo views into Mr. McGregor’s work environment and the equipment he actually used! The shop and its contents, unchanged, is STILL there, To Tell The Story!!!

…Moreover, I Think Alexander Henry (Sandy) McGregor, Is An Unusually Intelligent, Highly Skilled, And Important Person. And For This Reason, I Think That =>
…All Persons Who Of Knew Him, Should Do All They Can, To Get The Word Out To The World About Him. We Owe It To Sandy, The Universe, And To Ourselves To Be Active Promoters!

…Consequently, you dear reader, are urged to write up what you know about Mr, McGregor, however small, and send to HenryG__USCA.edu.
…And, please send any photos or articles you know about.

ALSO, If You Know Of Any Person Or Organization, Who Could Eventually Take Over This Property, And Protect It, For Future Use, Possibly A Museum, Please Email To => HenryG__USCA.edu Thank You.

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THIS IS THE END OF THE~37 PHOTO INTERLUDE:

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Tuesday, July 23, 2024: … A Pleasant July 24, 2024, Morning, With Refreshments, At One Of Oregon’s GoodBean Cafés, Alias GoodCoffeeBean Café.
…You See1) David Matos, 2) Blue’s Friend Who Has Much 40 Years Experience Driving The California Coast, 3) Blue Nelson, And 4) Yours Truly Henry Gurr.

… To See This Café’s Photos, One Of Which Shows The Café Front Entrance, With A Sidewalk Table Like Photo /\Above/\, Click Here. Located at 165 S Oregon St, Jacksonville, OR 97530 Phone 541 899 8740.
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While Our Attention Is On Good Food Sponsored By Henry Gurr, Here Are The Two More Good Close By Restaurants, That Blue Nelson Introduced Us To =>

…Evening July 23: To See Photo Of The Bohemian Bar & Rooftop Restaurant. AFTER This Comes Up, Scroll 8 Inches To See Where David Matos, Blue Nelson, And Yours Truly Henry Gurr, Enjoyed A Fine Relaxing Earling Evening Meal. Click Here.

…Morning July 24: Blue Nelson introduced Us To One Of Many Area Lil' Pantry Deli & Markets, which likely is the one at => 5017 Table Rock Rd, Central Point, OR, 97502. => To See Photo Of Restaurant & Satellite View Of This Location: Click Here & AFTER This Comes Up, Note Red Pinpoint Lower Right, and Gold Hill Upper Left.

…NOTE: Gold Hill, OR is where David Matos, And Yours Truly Henry Gurr, Stayed Over Night At Blue Nelson’s Very Interesting Place.

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A Satellite View Of Oregon ZMM Route FROM Crater Lake National Park At Top Right Of Center, THRU Klamath Falls, THRU Ashland, THRU Medford, THRU Grants Pass, TO Crescent City, California, At The Pacific Ocean Coast, Lower Left, At Smaller Red PinPoint, .
…At Lower Left Corner => Is Wonderful Lighthouse, Which Is Seen At Public Beach, At Ocean Side Of Crescent City, CA.
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SO YOU WILL HAVE NEEDED INFORMATION FOR APPROXIMATELY THE NEXT 30 FORTHCOMING PHOTOS,
…IN THE ABOVE SATELLITE VIEW, PLEASE NOTICE & REMEMBER THE RELATIVE ZMM ROUTE LOCATIONS OF =>
… Crater Lake National Park, (Top Right Of Center), Medford (At Large Red PinPoint), And Grants Pass, Oregon (At Center), And Crescent City, CA (UnLabeled, At Smaller Red PinPoint, Lower Left).


….ALONG THE BOTTOM OF SATELLITE VIEW => Please Especially Study The Marked Route FROM Klamath Falls TO Asland. => As Pointed Out By ZMM Book Expert Lee Glover =>
…This “Klamath Falls To Ashland” Route, Is VERY Likely The 40 Miles Of Oregon Road, Traveled By Author Robert Pirsig In 1968, Where, Along An Oregon Road, About Which, He Stated In ZMM =>
… “After a few minutes the road reaches a summit and then drops steeply into a valley that becomes more exquisite as we descend. I never thought I would call a valley that—exquisite—but there’s something about this whole coastal country so different from any other mountainous region in America that it brings out the word. ”
This You May See In => An Album Of Photos Showing Views Along The Above-Mentioned “40 Miles Of Oregon Road”.
Click Here, And AFTER This EIGHT Sub-Albums Page Comes Up, Read & Remember What Is Here. THEN Click On The SIXTH Sub-Album That Says = THIS IS: A SUPPLEMENTAL ALBUM FOR ZMM BOOK PART IV: Photos Illustrating The Most Likely ZMM Route Of Travel ZMM In Oregon FROM The Small Town Of Klamath Falls, Oregon, TO About 40 miles Northwest of Ashland, Oregon. These Include Views Of The ZMM Narrator’s Exquisite Valley.
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NOTE: Monday, July 22, 2024: …After LaPine, Oregon, As David Matos & Henry Gurr Continued South on US-97, they saw the Narrator’s =>….“Farther south we find a forest of scrubby trees, “
…And we saw (and photographed) many Interesting Plants & Flowers along the ZMM Route, to Crater Lake National Park. …. And we saw & photographed many, many great views at Crater Lake National Park.
…Further Southwest, we did not find more sights worthy of stopping. Especially so, since Henry’s 2002 ZMM Route Research Photos were/are good & sufficient, and can be viewed in photos forthcoming.
…AND, we really could not take time for any photo stops, since time was getting short to meet Bill Quaccia & Blue Nelson at The Welder’s Shop near Grants Pass, Oregon.
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…You May Bring Up The /\Above/\ Satellite View, And Conduct Your OWN ClickDrag Exploration (Plus Zoom In For More Detail). Click Here.
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NOTE1: In The /\Above/\ Satellite View, In The (At Lef)t) List Of Locations, several Added Locations Were Necessary, So Google Maps Would Correctly Show, The Approximate Route Followed By David Matos & Henry Gurr, Monday, July 22, 2024, which in turn is mostly the 1968 ZMM Route:
…The above-mentioned “Added Locations”, at Keno & Cascade National Monument, have no importance, for the ZMM Route.

NOTE2: The Simpson Reed Grove (Lower Left), having many Giant Redwood Trees, at Jedediah Smith State Park, is located on US-199, 6 miles Northeast of Crescent City.

NOTE3:The next photos are => Along the ZMM Route, After Grants Pass, Oregon, The Narrator here leaves unmentioned ~50 miles of travel along US-199, through lower altitude rural scenery, where landscape alternates FROM: wooded forest, TO: Houses & scattered businesses.
…Then US-199 Climbs Up To A High Mountain Pass, and after the California-Oregon Border, ZMM Narrator here leaves unmentioned 50 miles of travel, and a tremendous range of Mountain Scenery, And Red-Wooded Landscape changes.

NOTE4: For this above-mentioned NOTE 2, stretch of US-199, David & Henry did not find other sights worthy of stopping. Especially so, since Henry’s 2002 Photos were/are sufficient, and can be viewed in forthcoming photos.

NOTE5: Henry Gurr’s 2002 ZMM Route Research, By Happenstance Did A Forced Stop, And Found A California Canyon With Two VERY Interesting Phenomena Which The ZMM Enthusiast Should Closely Stuey, When This “Canyon” Photo Is Encountered!

NOTE 6: The Photos you see next, were taken along the California Coast Highway, US-101. The first Photo, being at the beach just south of Crescent City.
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After The ZMM Route Leaves Grants Pass, OR, It Travels On The “Redwood Highway”, Through Some 40 Miles Of Oregon Lower Altitude Scenery.

…The Above Photo Shows Scenery Along US-199, 16 Miles SW Of Grants Pass, OR.

…US-199 Will Eventually Climb Up To A High Mountain Pass, At The Oregon-California Border.

The ZMM Narrator Says =>
…“[We’re packed and out of the motel at just about check-out time] and are soon into the coastal redwood forest, …. ” >” (Cont .Next)

On US-199, 3 miles Southwest of Wonder, OR.
…The 3 house town of Wonder. OR is 13 miles SW of Grants Pass, OR, which you can zoom-in-on in Blue Link Below.
…The Narrator here leaves unmentioned ~50 miles of travel along US-199, through lower altitude rural scenery, where landscape alternates from wooded forest, to houses & scattered businesses.
…Evidently what is seen on this stretch of road, is not needed for the ZMM Travel Narrative. Why not?

A REPEAT OF INFORMATION GIVEN ON A SATELLITE VIEW SHOWN 18 PHOTOS PREVIOUS:
…As you READ the ZMM Narrator’s (Robert Pirsig’s) Route Description Passage Above (AND “Travel Decisions” Below), You May Want To =>
..A) Consult a paper Highway Map of Oregon, (Alternatively do B) & C) below. )

..B) RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT “NEW TAB” => A Satellite View Will Come-Up Showing The ZMM Route Towns Along I-5 => At Lower Right > Medford OR, At Left > Grants Pass, OR ….. At Lower Left Screen Edge See Text >.US-199, Which Is The “Redwood Highway: WestSouthWest ,Towards The Oregon-California Border.
…AFTER this View comes up => Click the Plus or Minus, so you can see the Highway Route Numbers. AND ClickDrag to see parts of View, off screen edges.

..C) To View A Good Watershed Terrane Relief Map Of The Rogue River Watershed, that shows the ZMM Route Towns of Medford OR & Grants Pass OR. RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT “NEW TAB” => To Bring Up A Watershed Terrane Relief Map. You Might Have This Map Off To Side On Your Screen), So You Can Contrast With The Blue Link Above:
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More Information About ZMM Narrator’s (Robert Pirsig’s), Travel Decisions in Area Of Grants Pass, Oregon.
…The ZMM Narrator describes their travel South from Crater Lake, along the East side of Upper Klamath Lake, then along the Southern edge of Upper Klamath Lake, and then generally West through Douglas Fir Forests.
…The Narrator & Chris eventually go through Medford, OR, and turn West onto Interstate (I-5). Here they travel ~”up-grade in a head-wind, and their cycle can barely keep up with the high speed traffic”. If you look at all this on a map, you can see that after Klamath Lake, their travel is generally West to beyond Medford, OR, and that the “up-grade” must be as I- 5 (already in the Valley of The Rogue Fiver), goes over a hump, and back down into the Rogue River Valley, then runs ~40 miles in the Valley, before turning NW, as I-5 goes by the North side of Grants Pass, OR.
…Here, the ZMM Route goes into Grants Pass, OR for overnight stay, and next morning’s shopping, laundry, & cycle chain guard welding. Then leaving Grants Pass, OR following US-199 (“The Redwood Highway”), travels some 50 miles to the Oregon-California Border.
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Very Tall Redwood Trees, The First Henry Gurr Was Able To Identify, But Only Six Miles AFTER Crossing The Oregon-California Border.

…After The ZMM Route Leaves Grants Pass, OR, It Travels Through Some 40 Miles Of Oregon Lower Altitude Scenery, And Eventually Starts Up To A High Mountain Pass.

…As The Altitude Increases Into The High Mountains At The Border, The ZMM Traveler Should Begin To See Very Tall Redwood Trees, Especially After “ Crossing Out Of Oregon Into California.”

The ZMM Narrator Says =>
…“ [ and are soon into the coastal redwood forest,] across out of Oregon into California. The traffic is so heavy we don’t have time to look up. It’s turning cold and grey and we stop and put on sweaters and jackets. It’s still cold, somewhere in the low fifties, and we think winter thoughts. ” ” (Cont. Next)

The /\Above/\ Photo, Along US-199, six miles SW, after California-Oregon Border, CA.
…The Narrator here leaves unmentioned 50 miles of travel and a tremendous range of scenery and landscape changes! Evidently not needed for the Narrative. Why not?
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California Inspection Station At Border Crossing From Oregon.

…“ …. [We are soon into the coastal redwood forest,] across out of Oregon into California.“ (Cont. Next)
Inspection Station, On US-199 at the California-Oregon Border.
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After The Oregon-California Border - Really a Mountaintop Pass - We Go Through a Long Tunnel. Then We Head Down, Down, Down.

…“The traffic is so heavy we don’t have time to look up.” (Cont. Next)

Just after the Mountain Top Tunnel, 3 miles SW from the California-Oregon Border, CA
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When the Narrator And Chris Came This Way, The Sky Was Grey and Getting Cold.

…“It’s turning cold and grey and we stop and put on sweaters and jackets. It’s still cold, somewhere in the low fifties, and we think winter thoughts. .. Lonely people back in town. … ” (cont. Next)

About one mile prior to Gasquet, CA.
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Back In Grants Pass, OR: An Irrigation Ditch Between A Typical Town Building And A Typical Parking Lot.

…And Over The Building, We See A Nice. Typical View Of The Distant Countryside.

…“[ Lonely people back in town.] I saw it in the supermarket and at the Laundromat and when we checked out from the motel.“

Photo Near South Business District, Grants Pass, OR.
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Parked Here Among These Giant Redwoods, Is Probably Where Author Robert Pirsig Probably Saw Pickup Campers.

The ZMM Narrator Says =>
…..“[Winter thoughts and lonely people.] These pickup campers through the redwoods, full of lonely retired people looking at trees on their way to look at the ocean.” (cont. Next)

A Pull-Off & Parking Area, Redwood Forest, Simpson Reed Grove, Jedediah Smith State Park, Along US-199, Twelve Miles East of Crescent City, CA.
… This Redwood Grove is truly a fantastic experience!
…But despite the fact that the road goes straight through it, the Narrator does not mention it! Why?
…The Narrator does mention redwoods later on, but does not mention stopping in them, for Chris’s exploration, as he did in the Douglas Fir Forests, back in Idaho’s Lochsa River Canyon.
…Considering the Narrator’s enthusiasm for mountain climbing/hiking, even there in cold, rainy conditions, why don’t they explore here? The exercise could nicely “warm up their bones” from the constant chilling breeze of motion on a cycle.
…Clearly, both Chris and the Narrator badly need some release from developing depression and emotional (mental) impasse. Is he just “making a run” for San Francisco?
…But the Narrator’s “making a run”, just seems to cause more anguish, depression, and bad decisions
…For example, after they get to the ocean coast, they ride on, and on, and on, in the dark, and cold rain. This happens despite the ZMM Narrator’s acknowledged fatigue and chills, and despite the clearly dangerous highways. =
…Moreover => All the stress ends up precipitating a crisis with Chris.

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Spots of Sunlight Fall On Single Trees Standing In the Darkness Produced By The Tree’s Society Called a Forest.

…“You catch it in the first fraction of a glance from a new face—that searching look—..then it’s gone. .. We see much more of this loneliness now. ” (cont. Next)

Entrance, Redwood Forest, Simpson Reed Grove, CA. To fully appreciate the darkness and moisture of the forest, I recommend that you view this image with any lights near your computer turned off.
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There Is Less Loneliness Back In Montana.

[Winter thoughts and lonely people, cont.] “[It’s paradoxical … ] Back where people were so spread out in western Oregon and Idaho and Montana and the Dakotas you’d think the loneliness would have been greater, but we didn’t see it so much.” (Cont. Next)

Photo at Yellowstone National Park, MT. The /\ Above /\ Photo shows a view along the ZMM Route on the road along the North edge of Yellowstone National Park.
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A Lonely Path Into the Redwood Forest.

…[ A paradox: Lonely in crowded cities, but not lonely in low populated areas.] “The explanation I suppose, is that the physical distance between people has nothing to do with loneliness. It’s psychic distance, and in Montana and Idaho the physical distances are big but the psychic distances between people are small, and here it’s reversed.” (Cont. Next)
Forest path at a Roadside Pull-off, Redwood Forest, Simpson Reed Grove, CA.
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What Is It About Us 20th Century “Moderns” That Makes Us Want This Shown In Photo.

And Not The Qualities Sponsored By Mother Nature Herself?

… “It’s the primary America we’re in. It hit the night before last in Prineville Junction and it’s been with us ever since. There’s this primary America of freeways and jet flights and TV and movie spectaculars. And people caught up in this primary America seem to go through huge portions of their lives without much consciousness of what’s immediately around them. The media have convinced them that what’s right around them is unimportant. And that’s why they’re lonely. You see it in their faces. First the little flicker of searching, and then when they look at you, you’re just a kind of an object. You don’t count. You’re not what they’re looking for. You’re not on TV.” (cont. Next)

Photo showing scene US-t97 South of Redmond, OR.
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Open Space & Nature. Here The Narrator Brings To Our Mind =>

…The Wide Open Countryside And Mountains, You Have Seen In My Photos, Such As The Above. =>

…What a Contrast To the Narrator’s “Primary America“!

…“But in the secondary America we’ve been through, of back roads, and Chinaman’s ditches, and Appaloosa horses, and sweeping mountain ranges, and meditative thoughts, and kids with pinecones and bumblebees and open sky above us mile after mile after mile, all through that, what was real, what was around us dominated. And so there wasn’t much feeling of loneliness. ” (cont. Next)

A Mountain Valley along US-26 (Ochooo Highway) 3 miles East of Keys Summit Pass, OR.
… Keys Summit Pass Is 3/4 Of The Way From John Day Fossil Beds, OR To Mitchell, OR. Click Here To See Terrane Map.
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