About 25 Minutes Later, A Panorama View Over Some Of The Highest Of The California Hills Along The Comptche-Ukiah Road, Heading Southeast In The Direction Of Ukiah, CA.
…Scrolling Right, You See Way Down To, Another Part Of This Road!
……Zig-Zag, Joyful Fun, Lean Into The Curves, On A Cycle!!

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THIS IS THE END OF THE 8 JULY 2024, ~19 PHOTO INTERLUDE:


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ATTENTION: The NEXT Photo Returns The Viewer (YOU), To Henry Gurr’s 2002 ZMM Route Photo, For The Subsequent Photos AFTER The Caspar, CA ZMM Climax Scene Photos.

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A Nature Trail In California’s Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve.

CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS PHOTO => Nonprofit Seeks To Raise An Additional $1 Million At Annual Take Me To The Trees Fundraising Event To Fund New Trails, And Bridge. Photo Compliments of Google Maps.

… “Given its location right in the middle of an incredibly important region of Mendocino County’s coast redwood forest, Atkins Place absolutely needed to be protected,” said Adrianna Andreucci, land protection manager for Save the Redwoods League. “.
…Atkins Place shares a three-quarter-mile boundary with Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve. Saving it from future subdivision and development preserves the wildlife corridor and provides a buffer for the old-growth redwoods in the park.” The League will own and manage Atkins Place before transferring it to California State Parks in the future. Protecting Atkins Place advances the League’s Centennial Vision to double the size of coast redwood forests in parks and reserves and secure the redwood forests’ footprints and ecology.
…Located in the South Fork Big River watershed, Atkins Place provides critical spawning habitat for steelhead trout and coho salmon, which are protected under the Endangered Species Act. Atkins Place also provides important habitat for the endangered foothill yellowlegged frogs and northern spotted owls, as well as northern goshawks, white-tailed kites and other raptors. 3 The mixed conifer forest on Atkins Place ranges from 50 to 90 years old. It has been privately owned and managed for timber production for decades.
Breathing New Life Into A Treasured Redwood Park.
…“After several years of planning with Save the Redwoods League, we are thrilled to be partnering on a multimillion-dollar project in the Montgomery Woods grove of old-growth redwoods,” said Terry Bertels, superintendent, Sonoma-Mendocino Coast District of California State Parks. “Our goal is twofold: to improve the visitor experience while protecting the precious old-growth trees.” The first phase of work is underway. It will reconstruct and expand the 2-mile perimeter loop trail to protect damaged redwood roots and water crossings. The second phase will create an immersive grove path to bring visitors onto the valley floor. New features will include gathering areas, a bridge overlooking Montgomery Creek and inclusive interpretive exhibits. Teams will also work to restore areas where extensive existing social trails have damaged the ecosystem. The work is expected to be completed in stages through 2025.
…Save the Redwoods League and California State Parks, with the help of the Mendocino Area Parks Association, are engaging local Indigenous groups and historically underrepresented communities in the project development and to support visits. “This project will allow more visitors from near and far to experience the reserve in ways that are most meaningful to them. The improvements will create short and long loops, places to gather as a group or have a picnic and opportunities to learn and reflect,” said Jessica Carter, director of parks and public engagement for the League. The total cost for the Montgomery Woods Initiative, including the purchase and stewardship of Atkins Place, is $5.3 million.
….Save the Redwoods is seeking to raise $3 million in public funding and $2.3 million in private philanthropy to complete this project. To date, individual donors have contributed $1.3 million to purchase and care for Atkins Place. Proceeds from the League’s annual fundraising event Take Me to the Trees, scheduled for October 22, 2022 in San Francisco, will close the $1 million gap to realize the vision for this beloved old growth redwood reserve.
…Those interested in learning more about the Montgomery Woods Initiative and how they can support it can find more information online. Saving Mendocino County’s Iconic Redwood Forests Save the Redwoods League has protected more than 37,500 acres in Mendocino County to date, many in some of the county’s most beloved parks and reserves, including Mendocino Headlands State Park, Sinkyone Wilderness State Park, Navarro River Redwoods State Park and Hendy Woods State Park. The League recently purchased the 3,181-acre Lost Coast Redwoods property and donated a 523-acre redwood forest known as Tc’ih-Léh-Dûñ to the InterTribal Sinkyone Wilderness Council, returning Indigenous guardianship of the land. Funding the Protection of Atkins Place The California Natural Resources Agency awarded the League $550,000 in acquisition funding for the purchase of Atkins Place through its Environmental Enhancement & 4 Mitigation Program. Google made a $188,000 gift through its partnership with the International Living Future Institute and its Living Building Challenge, a certification program that requires new projects to meet certain environmental metrics. Nearly 3,000 individual donors gave to the campaign, and the League particularly acknowledges generous contributions from the Clark Family Fund, the Pitzer Family Foundation, and the Daniel Ross Gallie Trust. *** Learn more about Atkins Place on the Save the Redwoods League website. To access hi-res images and b-roll, please visit the League’s online newsroom. 5 Save the Redwoods League One of the nation’s longest-running conservation organizations, Save the Redwoods League has been protecting and restoring redwood forests since 1918. The League has connected generations of visitors with the beauty and serenity of the redwood forest. The nonprofit’s 29,000 members have enabled the organization to protect more than 216,000 acres of irreplaceable forests in 66 state, national and local parks and reserves.
For information, please visit SaveTheRedwoods.org.
1 Contact: Robin Carr, Landis Communications Inc. Email: Redwoods@landispr.com | Phone: (415) 971-3991
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File = A Nature Trail In California …. Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve

The Road Twists and Turns Through the Trees With Surprises Around Each Corner.

…The Crisis Between Narrator And Chris Now Triumphantly Resolved, The Mood Is Totally Joyous, As The Cycle Responds To Each Curve And They Experience The Beauty Of All The Flowers!

…(Start Chapter 32.) “As we ride now through coastal manzanita and waxen- leafed shrubs, Chris’s expression comes to mind. “I knew it," he said.
…The cycle swings into each curve effortlessly, banking so that our weight is always down through the machine no matter what its angle is with the ground. The way is full of flowers and surprise views, tight turns one after another so that the whole world rolls and pirouettes and rises and falls away.” (Cont Next)

Three miles East of Mendocino, CA. After the Mendocino Business District, we have turned to the East off of California Coastal Highway Rt-1 … onto the Comptche-Ukiah Road. Although not specified by the Narrator, there are several reasons why this road is very likely the one Author Robert Pirsig took back in 1968 =>. 1) Going South from Caspar, CA it is the first available road inland where sun and heat (no cold fog) would be available. 2) It appeared on my Rand-McNally Map as a major through road, and hence likely would be on the Narrator’s Map of the area. 3) It goes SE, a direction they would want to go. 4) This road connects to the only other available high speed thru road, US-101, that directly connects to Narrator’s San Francisco. 5) It connects directly and nicely to Ukiah, the next Narrator mentioned town, as well as five subsequent Narrator mentioned towns. 6) The Comptche-Ukiah Road has the Orr Springs Resort, which has several off the road shaded resting places, and back in 1968 might have had picnic tables visible from the road. 7) And fitting the ZMM Narrative, these possible picnic table locations are in a ravine off to one side of the stream valley. 8) The Orr Springs Resort, appropriate to the travel time of the narrative, is some 36 miles from Point Cabrillo Rd, Caspar, CA.
…Although other possible routes would have similar scenery, this route does well fit the Narrator’s scenery and landscape descriptions.

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(Photo = 117-1716 ...... ZMM Page = 370 ...... WayPt = 465w 0591ft)

The ZMM Narrator Keeps Thinking Back To What Happened At “A High Point, ”Where Was The Sharp Switch Back Of Point Cabrillo Road.

…“"I knew it," he said. It comes back now as one of those little facts tugging at the end of a line, saying it’s not as small as I think it is. It’s been in his mind for a long time. Years. All the problems he’s given become more understandable.
…"I knew it," he said. .. He must have heard something long ago, and in his childish misunderstanding gotten it all mixed up. That’s what Phædrus always said — I always said — years ago, and Chris must have believed it, and kept it hidden inside ever since.” (Cont Next)

ZMM Narrator’s “High Point”, Point Cabrillo Dr, about 1.2 travel mile Southwest of Caspar, CA. Here the Narrator repeats his Master Motifs => "One of those little facts tugging at the end of a line, saying it’s not as small as I think it is.".
…He could have added that of “All the problems,” Chris’s "big problem" may not be as big as it seemed.
…This is because Chris’s long & very troubling “…"Were you really insane? ” had a quick & simple direct answer from Phaedrus’s last word => "No!”
…This, totally removed Chris’s "big problem" so in his childish certainty said "I knew it.“
…However, as is the case with a lot of problems, the “what’s wrong”, is UN-known. And a lot of “lateral drift” and bumbling around must be stumbled through, in order to discover … sometimes only by accident … bumble onto the “what needs to be fixed”! This is what happened to the Narrator & Chris’s “problem”.

…After Author Robert Pirsig’s ZMM “Climax Scene”, the Narrator and Phaedrus are to be one person again! But in passage above => the Narrator has to correct his thinking => “That’s what Phædrus always said — I always said — …”

… In the NEXT Photo => We discover that the Salvation of the Father, has all along been Chris's belief & support, and not the other way around!! *************************

(Photo = 117-1708cz1.9 ..... ZMM Page = 370 ...... WayPt = 463x 0090ft)

As They Travel Through Much Warmer Country, The Narrator Marvels At The Marvelous BreakThrough Just Experienced, Back At The ZMM Narrator’s “High Point”.
…The Narrators Exuberant Feelings Are (Metaphoric Bridge Connection) Reflected In The Marvelous “Rich Air And Strange Perfumes From The Flowers.”

…“We’re related to each other in ways we never fully understand, maybe hardly understand at all. He was always the real reason for coming out of the hospital. To have let him grow up alone would have been really wrong. In the dream too he was the one who was always trying to open the door.
...I haven’t been carrying him at all. He’s been carrying me!
... "I knew it," he said. It keeps tugging on the line, saying my big problem may not be as big as I think it is, because the answer is right in front of me. For God’s sake relieve him of his burden! Be one person again!
.. Rich air and strange perfumes from the flowers of the trees and shrubs enshroud us.” (Cont Next)

On the Comptche-Ukiah Road, three miles East of Mendocino, CA. After the Mendocino Business District, we have turned to the East off of the California Coastal Road Rt-1 … onto the Comptche-Ukiah Road.

In A Sep 8, 2020 Email Lee Glover Wrote =>
…In the ''Guidebook To Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance”, the authors said Phaedrus was the Christ, a reference to the statement in the last chapter of ZMM, that “Chris was carrying him ”.
…Chris literally means bearer of the Christ. To my knowledge Pirsig never disputed that assertion.

NOTE:
…From The ZMM Narrative, Chris and the Narrator were in Casper, CA around lunch time, and after the events at the Narrator’s “High Point” would be traveling the approximately 8 miles to here on Comptche-Ukiah Road in the early afternoon. However, you can tell from my photos, I was not able to maintain this schedule, and that I traveled this road at dusk.
…Hence my photos for the next 104 miles through to Santa Ana, CA will not have the correct sun illumination, nor direction to fit the ZMM Narrative.
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(Photo = 117-1717 ...... ZMM Page = 370 ...... WayPt = 465w 0591ft)

Mile After Mile, As The Road Curves And Turns Through the Dense Luxuriant Forest.

…“[Rich air and strange perfumes from the flowers of the trees and shrubs enshroud us.] Inland now the chill is gone and the heat is upon us again. It soaks through my jacket and clothes and dries out the dampness inside. The gloves which have been dark-wet have started to turn light again. It seems like I’ve been bone-chilled by that ocean damp for so long I’ve forgotten what heat is like. ” (Cont Next)

Six miles East of Mendocino, CA. The ZMM Narrator mentions “the trees and shrubs enshroud us. ” This complete “enshrouding” of dense green forests, is seen in my photos of this area, which is relatively near the Pacific Coast, and gets moist fog & coastal rains. But, as you will see in the forthcoming photos, this gradually changes to => “We See the Heavy Forests Are In Some Places, Opening Up To Open Lands and Thick Dry Grass.”
…However, after traveling some 36 miles inland, from the coast we see => “The Road Twists and Twirls Over More Grass Dry Grass Covered Hills” with only a few widely spaced trees.
…This change from “dense green forests near the Pacific coast” to “mostly dry grass” further inland, is typical for most of California

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…As mentioned in a previous photo => The Narrator and Chris came through here in early afternoon. But I was not able to maintain this schedule, and by the time I arrived to this area, it was at sunset with ever darker dusk.
…Please excuse my photos for not having the sun illumination of the ZMM narrative. Also I did not notice, until after I got home, that all my Comptche-Ukiah Road photos start the “twisty” “S” turn first to the right. Sorry for this “miss-truth”. Of course, there are an equal number of “S” shaped turns that turn to the left first! **************************

(Photo = 117-1721 ...... ZMM Page = 371 ...... WayPt = 467w 0679ft)

We Twist, Curve, and Bump Through The Forests, Just Like The ZMM Narrator Says.

…“The road continues to twist and wind through the trees. It upswings around hairpins and glides into new scenes one after another around and through brush …. ” (Cont Next)

Along the Comptche-Ukiah Road. About nine miles East of Mendocino, CA and about four miles East of Comptche, CA.

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Please Be Aware That Henry Gurr’s Following A) & C) Google Earth Projects Are Completed, And Ready To View As Follows =>
…INSTRUCTIONS: For best enjoyment of these below 3D Google Earth Views, AND for maximum understanding at each Blue Pinpoint, you should 1) Have the ZMM Route photos you are looking at, AND CONCURRENTLY 2) Have either of the Blue Links below => on a separate Computer, or Cell Phone screen.
…You will find additional specific instructions in each of the Google Earth Projects.

…A) GoogleEarth 3D Viewing Of A “Mountain Climbing Route of Chris and the Narrator, In The Gallatin National Forest (GNF) South of Bozeman, MT. This Route Fits Mountain Climb Narrative, In The Book Zen and the Art Or Motorcycle Maintenance (ZMM) by Robert Pirsig.”
…INSTRUCTIONS: AFTER This Page Comes Up => Please Scroll Down To And Read BOTH ABOVE and BELOW THE FOLLOWING WORDS =>

If You Don't Have The Resources Or Time To Climb The Trail, Or Even Drive There!
… FROM YOUR COMPUTER (WITH A FAIRLY FAST INTERNET), YOU CAN GOOGLE-EARTH, CLICKDRAG VIEW THE ENTIRE => "N+C Hypothetical Climbing Trail". (Also, you will see the needed Google Earth Link.)

…B) GoogleEarth 3D Viewing Of ZMM Book Route Along Montana & Wyoming’s Beartooth Highway From => ZMM Town Of Laurel, MT To Highest Parts Of The Beartooth Plateau (~11,000 ft Elevation). And then To East Gate Of Yellowstone National Park, Go By YNP’s Mammoth Hot Springs Calcite Formations, And Then To ZMM Town Of Gardener, MT.
…ATTENTION: This Is A JUST STARTED NEW Google Earth Project, And As Yet Has NO CONTENT. If you want me to hurry up and get some content here, please send email to HenrySGurr@gmail.com
This Currently Has No Content, But Will Be Ready For Viewing ASAP.

…C) GoogleEarth 3D Viewing of “ZMM Route” => Starting this WayPt = 453w seen in The /\ Above /\ Photo. And then continuing
Along the Mountainous California Coast To > Mendocino, CA. Then Inland To Ukiah, CA. And Then Via US-101 > San Francisco. Click Here.
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(Photo = 117-1724b ...... ZMM Page = 371 .... WayPt = 470i3 ~0750. Photo at 468w ~0425ft)

These Are the Best Low Hanging Tree Branches I Could Find On The Comptche-Ukiah Road. Perhaps the Road Has Been Improved Since 1968.

…“After a while when we cut sharp into a hairpin under some overhanging trees he says, "Oh," and then later on, "Ah," and then, "Wow." Some of these branches over the road are hanging so low they’re going to conk him on the head if he isn’t careful.” (Cont Next)

Along the Comptche-Ukiah Road. About nine miles East of Mendocino, CA and about four miles East of Comptche, CA.
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(Photo = 117-1724cbz1.4 ..... ZMM Page = 371 ..... WayPt = 470i4 ~1200ft. Photo at 468w 0183ft)

Is This The Place Along the Road Were the Narrator and Chris Could Have Rested?

…“I begin to feel drowsy and in a small ravine ahead I see a turnoff and a picnic table. When we get to it I cut the engine and stop. ” (Cont Next)

The /\ Above /\ Photo Is Along The Comptche-Ukiah Road, At Melbourne, CA.
..A) ~11.0 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
..B) ~33.3 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.

. As I Traveled This Backcountry Road Towards The ZMM Route Town Of Ukiah, Ca => About Midway I (Henry Gurr), Started To Look For Chris & Narrator’s Possible Resting Places And/Or Picnic Tables.
…The place pictured /\ Above /\ was a quiet, well off the pavement, and a good place for me to rest in the shade. But it was not a ravine, or a park, nor did it have any picnic tables.

….Using TopoZone Map (Link In Forthcoming Photo) => The only apparent place along the road where there is “a small ravine” visible from the road and just possibly might have had a 1968 “picnic table” , was/is "Orr Hot Springs", by road ahead. Orr Springs, is approximately 36 road miles from the Point Cabrillo Dr Sharp Switch Back, an appropriate distance to fit the ZMM narrative. These details will be shown in Forthcoming Photos.

NEW TOPIC: Both the “Comptche-Ukiah Road” and “Orr Hot Springs” come up high, as “Favorite Scenic By-Ways” in Google Searches.
…. RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT “NEW TAB” => After Satellite Map View Comes Up, You Will See The ZMM Route FROM Caspar, CA (Upper Left) TO Ukiah, CA (Lower Right). ClickOn The Plus&Minus To Zoom. You can “Click&Drag” The Map In Any Direction, To See More Off Your Screen Edges.
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(Photo = 117-1722 ..... ZMM Page = 371 ...... WayPt = 470i1 ~0700ft. Photo at 467w 0679ft)

Is This The Place Along the Road Were The Narrator And Chris Could Have Rested?

…Looking Back Towards Mendocino From The Same Place As The Previous Photo, We See That The Heavy Forests Some Places, Are Opening Up To Open Lands and Thick, Dry Grass.

…The /\ Above /\ Photo Is Along The Comptche-Ukiah Road, At Melbourne, CA.
..A) ~11.0 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
..B) ~33.3 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.
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…DATE-LINE: February 5, 2021. by Henry Gurr.
More Discussion, Concerning => What I Observed In 2002, As I Traveled The Comptche-Ukiah Road.
….Although the /\ Above /\ Photo shows plenty of daylight, my continued driving East, was in increasing darkness: However, despite the darkness, I was actively watching for the ZMM Narrator’s => “in a small ravine ahead I see a turnoff and a picnic table .. ”

… But, for a combination of reasons, I completely missed it. This may have been because the picnic table(s) were removed since 1968, or moved farther from the road, or hidden by new bushes & tree growth. Since I did not know that these table(s) were part of a Cabin & Camping Resort called “Orr Hot Springs Resort”, I didn’t know to look for any Highway Sign concerning such a location..
…. Added to this, I was not sure this was the correct road, and thus I was not primed to look very closely, or stop and ask about picnic tables, etc. Consequently, I have no Orr Hot Springs photos, nor most especially of any “picnic table“.

.To Persons Who Know This Comptche Ukiah Road & Area, Back In The 1970’s: Please send Email => Tell us what you know about possible locations of ZMM Narrator’s Descriptions of this Road & Area, and possibly send some photos..
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(Photo = 117-1723 ...... ZMM Page = 371 ...... WayPt = 470i1 ~0700ft. Photo at 467w 0679ft)

Looking East, Ukiah is 21 Miles Away, Beyond Those Distant Mountains.

…The Very Slight Orange Is From Sunset Light, As Seen Next Photo.

…EXPLANATION: As We Travel East On This Backcountry “Comptche Ukiah Road” Towards The ZMM Route Town Of Ukiah, CA =>

…We Leave Melbourne, CA (WayPt = 468w ~0435ft), And The Road Does A “Twisty Climb” (~+400 Ft) To A Ridge Top (WayPt = 469w 1226 Ft Elevation), Where The /\ Above /\ Photo Came Into View!

Google Map Gives Address as Ukiah, CA.
..A) ~32.1 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
..B) ~12.2 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.


…. This TopoZone Map Clearly Shows The Hillside Climb To The Hill Top Location Of /\ Above Photo => RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT “NEW TAB”
…And AFTER the Map View Comes Up, You Will See a Clutter of Adverts That Are Impossible To Eliminate. => YOU BEST SHOULD =>
….Use Scroll Bar At Far Right => Adjust Green Topo Map Until You See JUST BELOW The Plus&Minus Upper Left. => A ClickOn For “Full Screen”. Click on it, and Adverts Will Be GONE.
….Then use Plus&Minus To Zoom. You can “Click&Drag” Map In Any Direction, to See More Off Your Screen Edges.
Keeping The Setting For “Full Screen”, Please Know That => My WayPt = 469w 1226ft, Is In The Exact Screen Center, At GPS Coordinates => Degree Latitude = 39.22862 & Degree Longitude = -123.49605.
…Now, because TopoZone Maps do not have any way to mark screen center, you should at just below center, look for the darker contour line at 1460 ft elevation, that goes all around a hilltop: And just a bit above “the hilltop”, is my WayPt = 469w 1226ft: Of course this WayPt is by the “Comptche Ukiah Road”, which on this map is marked by two closely spaced lines, so it looks darker & wider than other lines.
…If you follow this road line down (South), and then zig-zag to left (West), and then approx. 45 deg moving to upper right (Northwest), you see the road has come up the hill side, which is above (North) of Johnson Creek. This fits the “Twisty Climb” description given in bold above.
…Now, going back to center screen, and If you follow this road line trending generally to the right (East), you see the road does a lot of zig-zags, as it goes gradually down the hill side, to an elevation of 600ft, and soon thereafter drops into the valley of the East Fork Big River (EFBR), which is the topic of the THIRD & FOURTH next photos.
… Continued following both road and EFBR, these will go by Orr Springs, the topic of the FIFTH & SIXTH next photos.

DATE-LINE: April 11, 2023. by Henry Gurr.
…If you read the above TopoZone paragraphs AND see these features on the TopoZone Map, you will realize how useful these topo maps are.
…In my experience in using TopoZone Maps, it is far easier and faster to see elevations and changes in elevation than say Satellite Views. And even better than Google Earth Pro (installed on your computer version), because even in their “3D Display”, is often too much obstructed by trees, to see elevation changes well enough to adequately identify hill tops, streams or rivers.
…My additional experience in using TopoZone Maps =>I was editing captions the series of ZMMQ Gallery you have been looking at, and discovered the text did not say well enough the location of above WayPt = 469w. I extensively tried Google Satellite Views and Google Earth Pro, but neither gave what I needed.
…Finally, after hours of frustration, I used a TopoZone Map showing area of Comptche, CA and followed the “two closely spaced lines” to the SE until I found => “The road that came up the hill side, which is North (above) of Johnson Creek”,. which was followed by the “zig-zag” road: And when I saw “the darker contour line at 1460 ft elevation, that goes all around the hilltop”, I knew I had successfully found my lost WayPt!! This is because the road shown on TopoZone, fit the above Bold and fit my 2002 memory of the road leading up to where I took the /\ Above /\ Photo.
…Thus in summary, and as a matter of fact, it was a TopoZone Map, that enabled me to find the map location of the above mentioned WayPt = 469w 1226ft.

…AND also, as a matter of fact, it was extensive studying a TopoZone Map, that enabled me to find the map location of the ZMM Narrator’s => “in a small ravine ahead I see a turnoff and a picnic table .. ” Earlier study using Google Satellite Views and Google Earth Pro failed.
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…. RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT “NEW TAB” => After Satellite Map View Comes Up, You Will See The ZMM Route From Comptche, CA, Going East To (the North of) Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve. ClickOn The Plus&Minus To Zoom. You can “Click&Drag” Map In Any Direction, to See More Off Your Screen Edges.
….After this Satellite View comes up (may have to ZOOM OUT to see), The Larger Red Pinpoint Marks Henry Gurr’s /\ Above /\ Photo location at WayPt 469. You can see & read “Comptche Ukiah Road”, and see the “Twisty Climb” to the Red Pinpoint
…Forthcoming Photos will mention “Orr Springs Road”, which is the same road as the “Comptche Ukiah Road”, with just a name change. Of course this road goes by “Orr Hot Springs Resort”, a topic mentioned in previous and following photos.
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(Photo = 117-1727b ...... ZMM Page = 371 ...... WayPt = 469w 1226ft )

Continued From “Sunset Orange” Mentioned Previous Photo, But Now Looking West And Also See “Sunset Orange”

…The Pacific Ocean Is Some 30 Miles Beyond Those Distant, High Ridges.

…“More trees and shrubs and groves. It’s getting warmer. Chris hangs onto my shoulders now and I turn a little and see that he stands up on the foot pegs.
…"That’s a little dangerous," I say.
…"No, it isn’t. I can tell."
…He probably can. "Be careful anyway," I say. ” (Cont Next)

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PLEASE REMEMBER THE LONG “TOPOZONE DISCUSSION ON THE PREVIOUS PHOTO, AND
…THE FOLLOWING IS AN ABBREVIATED DUPLICATE FROM REVIOU PHOTO:

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…EXPLANATION: As We Travel East On This Backcountry “Comptche Ukiah Road” (Towards The ZMM Route Town Of Ukiah, CA)

…We Leave Melbourne, CA (WayPt = 468w ~0435ft), And The Road Does A “Twisty Climb” (~+400 Ft) To A Ridge Top (1226 Ft Elevation), Where The /\ Above /\ Photo Came Into View!

Google Map Gives Address as Ukiah, CA.
..A) ~32.1 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
..B) ~12.2 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.

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…. RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT “NEW TAB” => After Satellite Map View Comes Up, You Will See The ZMM Route From Comptche, CA, Going East To (the North of) Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve. ClickOn The Plus&Minus To Zoom. You can “Click&Drag” Map In Any Direction, to See More Off Your Screen Edges.
….After this Satellite View comes up (may have to ZOOM OUT to see), The Larger Red Pinpoint Marks Henry Gurr’s /\ Above /\ Photo location at WayPt 469. You can see & read “Comptche Ukiah Road”, and see the “Twisty Climb” to the Red Pinpoint
…Forthcoming Photos will mention “Orr Springs Road”, which is the same road as the “Comptche Ukiah Road”, with just a name change. Of course this road goes by “Orr Hot Springs Resort”, a topic mentioned in previous and following photos.
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(Photo = 117-1726b ...... ZMM Page = 371 .... WayPt = 469w 1226ft)

A View In The Valley Of The East Fork Big River, Just Before The “Orr Springs Road”, Crosses The Bridge Over The East Fork Big River.

…“ "What’s the matter?" I ask.
…"It’s so different."
…."What?"
…"Everything. I never could see over your shoulders before."
…The sunlight makes strange and beautiful designs through the tree branches on the road. It flits light and dark into my eyes. We swing into a curve and then up into the open sunlight.
…That’s true. I never realized it. All this time he’s been staring into my back. "What do you see?" I ask. .. "It’s all different."“ ” (Cont Next)
NOTE: The Narrator’s “ "We swing into a curve and then up into the open sunlight.“ Metaphoric Bridge Connection brings illumination, so the Narrator has a new realization => “That’s true. I never realized it. “

In /\ Above /\ Photo the road foreground going east, just before the bridge crossing the river, 10460 Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County, CA.
..A) ~34.8 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
..B) ~9.5 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.

NOTE1: Although it is the same road, the Road Name Changes: Now On Orr Springs Road.
NOTE2: Please remember that => The road location of the /\ Above /\ Photo (also the next photo), was mentioned (and illustrated) in the TopoZone Map Discussion SECOND PREVIOUS Photo.
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…. RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT “NEW TAB” => After Satellite Map View Comes Up, You will See the most likely choice for the ZMM Route on “Orr Springs Road”, running beside The East Fork Big Rive=> ClickOn The Plus&Minus To Zoom. You can “Click&Drag” Map In Any Direction, to See More Off Your Screen Edges.
….After this Satellite View comes up, The Red Pinpoint Marks Henry Gurr’s /\ Above /\ Photo at WayPt 470. Your see “Orr Springs Road” And The East Fork Big River, which have been discussed previous, as well as Forthcoming Photos..
SATTELITE VIEW NOTE:
…Although mostly not enough to notice, it is a peculiarity of the Google Satellite View, to show the GPS Coordinates of my Red Pinpoint Marker slightly different from what is supplied to it, at my WayPt = 470w, which was at the roadside.
….But in the /\ Above /\ Photo, the Red Pinpoint Marker is considerably away from the road. This is most likely because my (Henry Gurr’s) GPS readings were “thrown-off”, due to the presence of lots of surrounding trees and the effect of this rather deep valley.

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(Photo = 117-1730b ...... ZMM Page = 372 ...... WayPt = 470k 0610ft)

Cont. From Previous Photo: A Second View In The Valley Of The East Fork Big River, Just Before The “Orr Springs Road”, Crosses The Bridge Over The East Fork Big River.

…To See Where The River Is => Look Closely At The Right End Of The Fence Where It Turns Down Between The Two Tan Colored Grassy Slopes. The River Is ~200ft Further Beyond.

… [“ We swing into a curve and then up into the open sunlight. We swing into a curve and then up into the open sunlight. .. That’s true. I never realized it. All this time he’s been staring into my back. "What do you see?" I ask. .. "It’s all different."“ ]
…“ We head into a grove again, and he says, "Don’t you get scared?"
…"No, you get used to it." ” (Cont Next)

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EAST FORK BIG (REDWOOD TREES) RIVER EXPLANATION:

….On The Previously Mentioned “Comptche Ukiah Road” Backcountry Road, As We Travel East Towards The ZMM Route Town Of Ukiah, CA, And After Comptche, CA =>

…The Road Comes Into The Valley Of The East Fork Big River (Elevation ~600 ft):

…The /\ Above /\ Photo Came Into View, After Traveling ~ 2 Miles In This Valley.

…This River Was Previously Crossed Over On The Pacific Coast Highway Rt-1 South Of Mendocino CA.

In /\ Above /\ Photo the road foreground going east, just before the bridge crossing the river, 10460 Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County, CA.
..A) ~34.8 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
..B) ~9.5 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.
NOTE1: Although it is the same road, the Road Name Changes: Now On Orr Springs Road.
NOTE2: Please remember that => The road location of the /\ Above /\ Photo (also the previous photo), was mentioned (and illustrated) in the TopoZone Map Discussion THIRD PREVIOUS Photo. AND if you care to go back to this TopoZone Map, the /\ Above /\ Photo at WayPt = 470w 0610ft, is ON the Gridline, just below where the road is shown crossing the East Fork Big River.
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…. RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT “NEW TAB” => After Satellite Map View Comes Up, You Will See ~Most Likely Choice For ZMM Route On “Orr Springs Road”, Some 10 Miles Running Beside The East Fork Big River. => ClickOn The Plus&Minus To Zoom. You can “Click&Drag” Map In Any Direction, to See More Off Your Screen Edges.
….After this Satellite View comes up (may have to ZOOM OUT to see), The Red Pinpoint marks Henry Gurr’s /\ Above /\ Photo at WayPt = 470. You can see “Orr Springs Road” and the East Fork Big (Redwood Trees) River, which have been discussed previously, as well as forthcoming photos.
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NOTE: WHAT ZMM READERS SHOULD KNOW CONCERNING THE LANSCAPE SURROUDING ZMM NARRATOR’S [ “I begin to feel drowsy and in a small ravine ahead I see a turnoff and a picnic table. When we get to it I cut the engine and stop. ” ]
…After I traveled East on the Backcountry “Comptche Ukiah Road” Road, the name of this road changes to “Orr Springs Road and soon thereafter at some 8 miles East of Comptche, CA, I came into the valley of the so-called “East Fork Of The Big (Redwood Trees) River” (EFBR), where the /\ Above /\ Photo came into view, after traveling ~2 miles in this valley. …
Information From Looking At The TopoZone Map (Discussion & Link THIRD PREVIOUS Photo).
…After the /\ Above /\ Photo Location, it looks as though the road travels the EFBR Valley, East up stream to eventually go by the “Orr Hot Springs Resort”. This is where I believe Author Robert Pirsig and Chris, back in 1968, found “a small ravine … and a picnic table.”
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Concerning The “Big (Redwood Trees) River” Wikipedia Excerpt Says =>
…The Big River is a 41.7-mile-long (67.1 km) river in Mendocino County, California, that flows from the northern California Coast Mountain Range to the Pacific Ocean at Mendocino, Mendocino County, California. From the mouth, brackish waters extend 8 miles (13 km) upstream, forming the longest undeveloped estuary in the state.”
For The Complete Wikipedia Article Click Here.
…After this Wikipedia Page comes up, you will see a small Terrain Relief Map of California, with a Red Dot marking where this river is. Remember this place on the coastline, then click to view this map in larger version. Look closely to find the same coast line, and then you can pick out this river’s water shed running to the South East (up river), from the ocean coast.
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(Photo = 117-1729b ...... ZMM Page = 372 ...... WayPt = 470w 0610ft)

Entrance Road Leading To The “Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve”. A Google Street View (GSV) (Image May 2019), Screen Capture Photo, Shows At Right 1) Their Reserve Entrance Sign and At Left 2) Visitor Service Building.

…As You Will See NEXT Photo ~60 Feet To The Right Of The Above Visitor Service Building, Is A “Picnic Table” Which Is On A Wooden Deck Built Partly Over The Adjacent “South Fork Big River” (SFBR).

…This Stream Is Shown on Maps As “South Fork Big River”, And In This Area Of California, Is Along The “Orr Springs Road”, Which Is The Same As The Comptche-Ukiah Road =>

… [“ . "What do you see?" I ask.
…"It’s all different."“
…“ We head into a grove again, and he says, "Don’t you get scared?"
…"No, you get used to it."
…I begin to feel drowsy and in a small ravine ahead I see a turnoff and a picnic table. When we get to it I cut the engine and stop.
…"I’m sleepy," I tell Chris. "I’m going to take a nap."
…"Me too," he says. ” ] “(Cont Next)

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SUMMARY: Some 60 Feet From The Entrance To Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve, Is A Very Likely Place for The Narrator’s 1968 “A Picnic Table” And Narrow Ravine.”
..A) ~34.4 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
..B) ~15.5 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.

As Was Stated In 4th Previous Photo => “Despite His Best 2002 ZMM Route Research Efforts, Henry Gurr Has No Photos” Of Narrator’s “Picnic Table“ Or “Narrow Ravine”.

….Having no other suitable Photos, Google Street View (GSV), Again “Comes-To-The-Rescue”, as you see in the NEXT Three Photos, and Other Photos in this Album.
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DATE-LINE: April 25, 2023. by Henry Gurr.
…As Is Fully Discussed in The 2nd & 3rd NEXT Photos => Originally I was convinced that > The “Orr Hot Springs Resort” , Was Practically The Only Place That Fits The Above Narrator’s Descriptions.
…However, I finally was able to phone call talk to one of the Orr Resort staff persons who said =>
…1) “It was highly unlikely that, over the years, they had a picnic table visible from the road”. And
…2) “A Picnic Table by the road is/was very likely at the Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve. Which =>
You Will See & Read About In The NEXT Photo: There You Will Be Able To =>
…A) Judge For Yourself Whether The “Orr Hot Springs Resort”, Is Practically The Only Place That Fits The Narrator’s Descriptions => “Picnic Table” Or “Narrow Ravine”. And =>
…B) ALSO See Any Possible Ravines In A Topozone Map.
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(Photo = GoogStVu MontgomeryWoodsStateReserve Sign&EntranceRd 11125OrrSpringsRdUkiahCA.jpg ...... ZMM Page = 371 ...... WayPt =470i

Continued From Previous Photo: Some 50 Feet From The Entrance Road Leading To The “Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve”, A Google Street View (GSV) (Image May 2019), Screen Capture Photo Shows =>

…At Left , “Orr Springs Road” On Bridge, Going Over The “South Fork Big River”.

…And In Sunlight To Left Of Center, You See A Wooden Fence, That Continues To The Right Of The Photo , Where You See A Man.

…Now Looking Closely To The Right Of The Man, You Can Discern A “Picnic Table”!

…With Further Looking, You Will See That The Man & Picnic Table, Are On A Wooden Deck Built Partly Over The Edge Of The Adjacent “South Fork Big River” (SFBR).

…At Lower Center Of Photo => Study The Low Area Beyond The Bridge Railing. This Is The Stream Bed Of The “South Fork Big River”, And In This Area Of California, Is Along The “Orr Springs Road”, Which Is The Same As The Comptche-Ukiah Road =>

… [“ . "What do you see?" I ask. .. "It’s all different."“
…“ We head into a grove again, and he says, "Don’t you get scared?"
…"No, you get used to it."
…I begin to feel drowsy and in a small ravine ahead I see a turnoff and a picnic table. When we get to it I cut the engine and stop.
…"I’m sleepy," I tell Chris. "I’m going to take a nap."
…"Me too," he says. ” ] “(Cont Next)

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SUMMARY: As You Can See In The /\ Above /\ Photo, This “Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve” Location, Is A Very Likely Place for The Narrator’s 1968 “A Picnic Table”.
…The mission of institutions such as Montgomery Woods, includes making facilities available to the public, such as the deck and picnic table. And there is not really any reason for visitor facilities at other places along a relatively low traffic road. Private property owners would avoid such, and highway departments would consider a traffic hazard, unless they put in a Roadside Rest Area.

…However, since a normal Narrow Ravine.” Is Not Close By, The following would be a better ZMM Narrator Statement =>
….. “ in a small river valley ahead I see a turnoff and a picnic table. ”

Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve, 11125 Orr Springs Rd, Ukiah, CA.

…A) ~34.4 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
…B) ~15.5 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.

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DATE-LINE: January 25, 2021. by Henry Gurr.
As Is Fully Discussed in The 1st & 2nd NEXT Photos => Originally I was convinced that > The “Orr Hot Springs Resort” , Was Practically The Only Place That Fits The Above Narrator’s Descriptions.
…However, I finally was able to phone call talk to one of the Orr Resort staff persons who said =>
…1) “It was highly unlikely that they had a picnic table visible from the road”. And
…2) “A Picnic Table by the road is/was very likely at the Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve. Which =>
In The /\ Above /\ Photo You Can =>
…A) Judge For Yourself Whether The “Orr Hot Springs Resort”, Is Practically The Only Place That Fits The Narrator’s Descriptions => “Picnic Table” Or “Narrow Ravine”. And =>
…B) ALSO See Any Possible Ravines In A Topozone Map.
…1) For example, using Blue Link below, I have studied, along both sides of the wider line marked “Orr Springs Road”, which is the same as California’s “Comptche-Ukiah Road.
…My study started at Melbourne, CA and followed this road trending East Southeast, to well past Orr Springs. Among possible candidates for The ZMM Narrator’s “a small ravine , I picked out along the Northern Edge of Mountain Labeled “MONTGOMERY WOOS STATE PARK”, 3 ravines with small streams that flow ~South into the South Fork Big River, which is also where the road is.
…Then I used Google Street View, to “Drive” step by step this same “Northern Edge”.
… From This I Concluded => Because this section of road is all lowland along a river, there is plenty of water to make dense forest foliage, such that a traveler such as the ZMM Narrator could not see beyond ~ 10 feet from the road. This prevented seeing any ravines even knowing one was there. This is the case for all three of the above-mentioned “3 ravines with small streams”. Two of these were respectively =>
…a) At 10915 Orr Springs Road, where goes over a small side stream, which came out or a ravine not seeable with GSV
…b) At 10823 Orr Springs Road, where goes by al side valley seen ToppZone, but not seeable with GSV.
CONCLUSION => : Given the above discussion, the “Picnic Table” at “Montgomery Woods State Natural Reserve” Location, Is The ONLY, Very Likely Place for The Narrator’s 1968 “A Picnic Table”.

…C) You Can Further Conduct Your Own Study, Along, Using TopoZone Map =>
RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT ‘NEW TAB’ => After Map View Comes Up, You Will See A Clutter of Adverts That Are Impossible To Eliminate => YOU BEST SHOULD => ….Use Scroll Bar At Far Right => Adjust Green Topo Map Until You See JUST BELOW The Plus&Minus Upper Left. => A ClickOn For ‘Full Scree’. Click On It, And Adverts Will Be GONE. ….Then use, The Plus&Minus To Zoom. You can Click&Drag Map In Any Direction, and See More Off Your Screen Edges.
…Now you are ready to do similar to my study at above => 1).
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The /\ Above /\ Photo Is/Was A Screen Capture From => A Google Street View (GSV),. , Click Here To See The Wooden Deck With Picnic Table, AND/OR Do Your Own “GSV Drive”, In Either Direction..
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(Photo = GoogStVu MontgomeryWoodsSt..PicnicTblOnWoodDeckOverRvr 11125OrrSpringsRdUkiahCA.jpg ...... ZMM Page = 371 ...... WayPt = 470i )
GPS Coordinates given In above Blue Link, Or Alternatively At Top of The Above-Mentioned TopoZone Map.

Leading To The “Orr Hot Springs Resort”, A Google Street View (GSV) Screen Capture Photo, Shows Their Bridge Over The “South Fork Big River” (SFBR).

…This Stream Is Shown on Maps as “South Fork Big River, And In This Area Of California, Is Along The “Orr Springs Road”, Which Is The Same As The Comptche-Ukiah Road => .

…Look VERY Close (To Right Of Orange Cone At Base Of Tree) => And Looking Further To Right, In The Sunlighted Area, You Can Discern The Slope Down to The Edge Of A What Must Be A Medium Sized Stream. But The Water Is Barely Discernable.

…The NEXT GSV Photo Shows A Better View Of The Water Of This Stream.

… [“ . "What do you see?" I ask. .. "It’s all different."“
…“ We head into a grove again, and he says, "Don’t you get scared?"
…"No, you get used to it."
I begin to feel drowsy and in a small ravine ahead I see a turnoff and a picnic table. When we get to it I cut the engine and stop.
…"I’m sleepy," I tell Chris. "I’m going to take a nap."
"Me too," he says. ” ]
“ We sleep and when we wake up I feel very rested, more rested than for a long time. I take Chris’s jacket and mine and tuck them under the elastic cables holding down the pack on the cycle.
…It’s so hot I feel like leaving this helmet off. I remember that in this state they’re not required. I fasten it around one of the cables.
…."Put mine there too," Chris says.
…."You need it for safety."
…."You’re not wearing yours."
…."All right," I agree, and stow his too." “(Cont Next)

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“Orr Hot Springs Resort”, The Most Likely Place for The Narrator’s 1968 “a picnic table”
..A) ~32.1 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
..B) ~12.2 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.

A NOTE RE /\ ABOVE /\ PHOTO:
….You can easily make out the Cut of the Stream to the LEFT of the Bridge. Continue looking to RIGHT Side of the Bridge, and you can make out more of the Cut Of The Stream in the Sunny Areas between the small trees.

As Was Stated In 4th Previous Photo => “Despite His Best 2002 ZMM Route Research Efforts, Henry Gurr Has No Photos” Of Narrator’s “Picnic Table“ Or “Narrow Ravine”.

….Having no other suitable Photos, Google Street View (GSV), Again “Comes-To-The-Rescue”, as you see in the /\ Above /\ Photo, the Next Photo, and Other Photos in this Album.
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The /\ Above /\ Photo Is/Was A Screen Capture From => A Google Street View (GSV), “Image May 2019”.
…You can do own “GSV Drive” on => Google Street View (GSV) To Do Your Own Study Of => What Can Be Seen From The Road, You Can . Do A “GSV Drive”, In Either Direction.
….Click on Blue Link above and => You can “GSV Drive”, in either direction, and see that this Valley OVERALL, might reasonably fits definition of “Ravine” => “a deep, narrow gorge with steep sides”.

And, In Addition => You Can “GSV Drive”, Further East And Go Around 2 Switchbacks, At Which Point =>
…. Click Here, And In This GSV, You Will See A Nice Ravine, In The Distance To The South Of SFBR. This Might Well Be The ZMM Narrator’s Narrow Ravine.”
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A Search On Bing Or Google Finds 100’s Of Photos Showing That => Orr Hot Springs Resort Is A Really Nice Place! AND “A Hidden Retreat Only Three Hours North Of San Francisco For Only $50!!"
…If you Bing or Google ….Orr Hot Springs Resort Mendocino County California… , In the results, you will find mentioned sites that have “Photos & Reviews”. And you will see where to Click to “See Photos’
…a) On Google, a click “All Photos” will bring up 45 really nice Photos.
…b) On Bing, a click “All Photos” will bring up 47 really nice Photos.
Of course, a few of the photos are the same.
Orr Hot Springs Resort.
https://www.orrhotsprings.org ›
CONTACT-US EMAIL: orrreservations@gmail.com (please include a phone number at which you can be reached).
13201 Orr Springs Road
Ukiah, CA 95482
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….As You Will Read In The NEXT Photo You Will Be Able To =>
…A) Judge For Yourself Whether The “Orr Hot Springs Resort”, Is Practically The Only Place That Fits The Narrator’s Descriptions => “Picnic Table” Or “Narrow Ravine”.
…B) ALSO See The Above Mentioned Ravine In A Topozone Map.
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(Photo = GoogStVu FootBridgeCrossSForkBigRv}OrrHotSpringsResort11072OrrSpringsRdUkiahCA.jpg ...... ZMM Page = 371 ...... WayPt = Is At /\ Above /\.Photo’s GPS Coordinates given In the Blue Link, Or Alternatively At Top of The AboveMentioned TopoZone Map. )

The Entrance Bridge To “Orr Hot Springs Resort” Is 200 Ft Ahead, At Blue Car. There The Road There Widens For “A Turnoff ”.

… A Google Street View (GSV) Screen Capture Photo, Shows A Small Portion Of The “South Fork Big River” (SFBR), Along The “Orr Springs Road”, Which Is The Same As California’s Comptche-Ukiah Road.

…At Right Of Center (In Opening Between Trees), The Water Of This Medium Sized Stream, Can Discerned. … Now, Beyond The Small Dead Tree Branch, You Can See Some Whitewater Shallow Rapids, And Then Looking Higher Up, See The Stream’s Sandy Edges, At Bottom Of The Bank Of Opposite Side Of The Stream”.

…This Stream (SBBR) Going By Here Is Medium Sized, Because It Is Near The Upper Reach Of Its Watershed.

….[ “We sleep and when we wake up I feel very rested, more rested than for a long time. I take Chris’s jacket and mine and tuck them under the elastic cables holding down the pack on the cycle.
…It’s so hot I feel like leaving this helmet off. I remember that in this state they’re not required. I fasten it around one of the cables.
…."Put mine there too," Chris says.
…."You need it for safety."
…."You’re not wearing yours."
…."All right," I agree, and stow his too.” ]
“ The road continues to twist and wind through the trees.
(Cont Next)
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“Orr Hot Springs Resort”, The Most Likely Place for The Narrator’s 1968 “A Picnic Table” And Narrow Ravine.”
..A) ~32.1 Road Miles East of Mendocino, CA and.
..B) ~12.2 Road Miles West of Ukiah, CA.

As Was Stated In Previous Photo => Despite Best 2002 ZMM Route Research Efforts, Henry Gurr Has No Photos Of Narrator’s “ Picnic Table..“ Or Narrow Ravine.”

….Having no other suitable Photos, Google Street View (GSV), “Comes-To-The-Rescue”, as you see /\ Above /\ and Other Photo in this Album.

A NOTE RE /\ ABOVE /\ PHOTO:
…..Look Closely At Botton Center, See Word “Google” And Above See Faint White GSV Oval With /\ Inside.
…Now, looking slowly to the right of this “Oval”, you can see Green Grass sloping down to Water’s Edge. Further to right, in open space of branches (as mentioned above), you can see the light gray of the water surface, and in center see some “White Water”. (and as also mentioned above), Looking Higher Up You See The Sandy Edges At Bottom Of The opposite Bank Of The Stream”.
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…DATE-LINE: February 17, 2021 by Henry Gurr.
MORE DISCUSSION OF ZMM ROUTE RESEARCH, ALONG CALIFORNIA’S “COMPTCHE-UKIAH ROAD”.
….Using The FOURTH Blue Link Below For A TopoZone Map. We can see one of the few reasonable places along the road, where there is a Valley Scene, somewhat like The ZMM Narrator’s “a small ravine” , & visible from the road & a reasonable place that in 1968 might have had a “a picnic table”, that was visible from the road. This Reasonably Could Have Been At "Orr’s Springs", which is approximately 36 road miles from the Sharp Switch Back On Point Cabrillo Dr., an appropriate distance to fit the ZMM narrative.

After Having Determined That The “Orr Hot Springs Resort” Is Practically The Only Place That Fits The Narrator’s Descriptions,
…I decided to determine the extent to which the ZMM Narrator’s “a small ravine”, is visible from the road.
…For this purpose, Click Here To Do Your Own “GSV Drive”, In Either Direction..
For Example: I Started From The Location Of Orr Hot Springs And Completed A “GSV Drive” =>
…A) Going West, on Orr Springs Road as far as Comptche, CA but did not see any good candidates.
…B) Going East on Orr Springs Road as follows =>
……1) “GSV Drive” on relatively level read, then ~90 deg left turn, and climb to 2nd ~90 deg left turn, then a right turn switchback, continued climb to a left turn switchback, and here stop, and rotate view to a bit right of South.
……2) After completing 1) above, you will be able to see the “V-Shape” of a large looking Valley, which might be called by the ZMM Narrator “a small ravine ”.
…C) => …. Click Here To See A Google Street View Of The Above Mentioned “V-Shape” Of A Large Looking Valley”. This I believe is what the ZMM Narrator called “a small ravine ”
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You Can Study The 1) & 2) On A TopoZone Map, Blue Link Below =>
…A) You Can Pick Out What Might Be The ZMM Narrator’s “a small ravine ”. by finding (center screen), the black dot marking “Orr Springs”, Then study both sides of stream that is to the Southeast.
…B) You Can Further Conduct Your Own Study, Along California’s “Comptche-Ukiah Road”, Using TopoZone Map =>
RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT ‘NEW TAB’ => After Map View Comes Up, You Will See A Clutter of Adverts That Are Impossible To Eliminate => YOU BEST SHOULD => ….Use Scroll Bar At Far Right => Adjust Green Topo Map Until You See JUST BELOW The Plus&Minus Upper Left. => A ClickOn For ‘Full Scree’. Click On It, And Adverts Will Be GONE. ….Then use, The Plus&Minus To Zoom. You can Click&Drag Map In Any Direction, and See More Off Your Screen Edges.
…Now you are ready to do the above A) and B).
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(Photo = GoogStVu WhtWater&EdgSForkBigRv}OrrHotSpringsResort11072OrrSpringsRdUkiahCA.jpg ...... ZMM Page = 371 ...... WayPt = Is At /\ Above /\.Photo’s GPS Coordinates given In the Blue Link, Or Alternatively At Top of The Above-Mentioned TopoZone Map. )